Barbeque nation Ltd

Barbeque Nation Ltd.

Why Barbeque Nation ?

The history of casual dining restaurant startups is just one big graveyard, yet Barbeque has been able to scale up from its first restaurant in Mumbai in 2006 to 164 restaurants today all over India & 11 international restaurants.

Before we dive in, a little bit of buffettology - “From 1984-87, Berkshire Hathaway was sitting on over $1 Billion in cash and did not make a single investment in any public-equity. Then, in 1987, they invested about $1.2 Billion in Coca-Cola Common stock – buying every share they could get their hands on over a six month period. Berkshire ended up owning about 6% of Cola Cola. Amazingly, they invested 25% of Berkshire Hathaway’s entire book value in a single company.

At that time berkshire was trying hard to geographically expand the market share of acquired company see’s candy but despite many attempts they failed and this unique learning from failure helped them seeing coke differently than others & rest is history they embraced this ability of coke to be accepted across states / border, which markets weren’t pricing in at that time. “

Unfortunately, markets today appreciates this about QSR business -

(buffett was buying coke 15x earnings, today QSRs are trading at 7-15x sales)

Whereas BBQ nation IPO happened at a very attractive price 2x Fy20 sales (now it’s too trading at 6x its FY22 sales, yes we all missed the bus.)

You can say BBQ nation is not QSR but i’ll try to argue maybe perhaps it’s better than QSR’s mentioned above.

Lets deep dive into understanding it -

How did they start ? The pain point they solved :

India’s leading restaurant chain Barbeque Nation was started in 2006 by one of the Promoters Late Sajit Dhanani who was the brother of the current Managing Director of Barbeque Nation.

Sajid Dhanani who handled the popular hotel chain “Sayaji” in Indore, once experienced complaints from customers regarding cold appetizers during the cold weather of winters in 2006. To resolve such complaints, he came up with the idea of making an experiment to serve a table of customers with a “live grill”. This encouraged Sajid to establish a separate Barbeque Nation restaurant. The first branch of the restaurant was opened in Pali Hills in Mumbai. After that, the restaurant witnessed massive growth by opening 18 more branches in a short duration. Further, 23 stores were opened by the brand in FY 2007-2008.

In the year 2014, the concept of “Kulfi Nation” was introduced by Barbeque Nation in its every branch. This is a kulfi counter that facilitates customers to select from 8 kulfi flavors.

Further, in 2015, “live counters” were opened by the brand at its outlets in which food as per the preference of customers would be cooked by the chef.

Today they have scaled up to 150 outlets in India, 5 outlets in UAE, 1 outlet in Malaysia and 1 outlet in Oman.

Wonderful thing about this business is till today (exception of Covid year), they never had to close down any restaurant due to lack of business, wherever they opened it was an instant hit.

Typically they require about 2-3 Cr of capex per restaurant, their restaurants become break even on year 1 itself, by year two they start earning 15-17% EBITDA margins and by year 3 the EBITDA margins stabalize to 25-27% .

Customer / Guest Focus / Feedback and innovation has been the key driver of success -

In BBQ nation internally they call their customers “guests”. Kudos to the founders who came up with these minute things which matter a lot in terms of defining the company’s DNA.

Company calls its 20% of the dine-in customers /Guest to seek feedback and they are playing by the same play book to scale up their delivery business where they are calling 50% of the customers to seek feedback / improvements.

Growth Hack -

Birthday Celebration - (hell of a marketing technique - they just cracked it)

This not only makes customers feel special, free cake works as reciprocity - in social situations we pay back often more than what we received from others and customers post their birthday celebration video online / whatsapp which generates free marketing.

Their Geographical Presence -

147 Fast facts Barbeque-Nation restaurants in India

6 Barbeque-Nation restaurants overseas

11 Italian restaurants under Toscano

Their presence all over India means they have a supply chain sorted out everywhere and now they should be able to build upon it.

What changed due to COVID ?

Covid forced them into product innovation and transformation of delivery business which includes “Barbeque in a box”, “Grills in a box”. These two products have been an instant hit and already Rs 100Cr annual turnover business.

Plus in order to save commissions to Zomato of the world, Company also made rapid strides in digital, with its own app and website geared to take delivery orders as well as provide in-store dining Reservations.

They have already loyal 2.2 million customers, 4* , decent reviews.

New driver of growth (delivery product) ?

1.5 Crores of annual delivery business per store.

Pioneered a new delivery product: Barbeque-in-aBox • 2.9x increase in delivery revenue which increased to ₹ 770 mn in FY21 from ₹ 261 Mn in FY20.

They are spending approximately Rs. 25 lakh per extension kitchen and currently we are doing an average monthly sale of approximately Rs. 9 to 10 lakhs, this is during the first few months that we have been operating it with Gross Margins of 66% & Operating Margins = 20%.

Are they just metro constraint business or are they able to scale up to tier 2-3 cities ?

Given they never had to close down any restaurant due to lack of business it does suggest they have the product market fit works across geography.

Given -

  • 40% of revenue comes from 5 big cities
  • 60% from rest of the cities

And revenue has grown inline with the store expansion, it does suggest it’s a beyond metro business.

As shown above between FY15 to FY20, Number of stores grew by 30% CAGR and Revenue grew by 23% CAGR.

It takes 3 years for a new store to fully mature resulting in revenue growth slightly lower than the store expansion growth.

Another wonderful thing about this business is its a working capital negative business - Kind of shows they have bargaining power over their suppliers ( generally happens when they take commodity (food in this case) & turn it into branded product) .

As you might have heard - “Restaurant businesses are bad business only QSRs generate wealth and on an aggregate rest of the segments CDR (which BBQ does) and FDR destroy wealth.”

Does it apply to CDR businesses of BBQ Nation ?

Unlike other CDR businesses -

  • BBQ nation expand across geographically easily. (very rare & imp trait)
  • Weekday (Mon to Thursday) to weekend (Friday to Saturday) business revenue is about 55%.
  • Lunch to Dinner business is 45%.
  • Breakeven at 1 table turn and they do about 1.9 on an average.
  • 95% of their restaurants break even in 0 to 3 months, 5% took about 6 months.
  • Year 1 = 10% EBITDA
  • Year 2 = 15-17% EBITDA
  • Year 3 = Matures to 22% EBITDA
  • Till FY20 they haven’t shut any of the restaurants due to lack of business.

Last 5 years (FY16 - FY20) sales growth (ignored pandemic year)

BBQ Nation - 16% CARG

Burger King - 43% CAGR

Jubilant food works - 10% CAGR

Devyani International - 9.67% CAGR

Westlife Development - 9.13% CAGR

Sapphire Foods - Flat Screen.

Number one criteria they look at before opening a new store is - Rent to Rev should be 10%.

BBQ model is - Entire consumer experience is of CDR (Casual dining restaurant) but entire backhand is of QSR.

Valuation -

Their FY25 goal is to grow from 164 to 300 (16% CAGR) restaurants all over india, given last 5 years they have grown 28% CAGR this seems reasonable, my view is that if Tanishq can afford to have over 313 stores all over india, Definitely BBQ can afford to have over 300 restaurants too.

Their average SSSG is around 6 % of their mature restaurants meaning they have been able to pass on the inflation to their customers and average EBITDA margins are at 22% at store level & if we deduct 6% overall IT cost we get around 15% at overall level.

To value BBQ nation we will work with 15% EBITDA margins and 7% SSSG of mature restaurants.

Scenario 1 -

Let’s say by FY26 they will be able to grow to 300 stores and let’s say average sales of Rs 7 Cr per store will grow by 7 % cagr to 9 Cr by Fy26.

On Fy26

Total Revenue = Rs 9*300 Cr = Rs 2700 Cr

EBITDA = Rs 2700 * 0.15 = Rs 405 Cr

Let’s say Rs 10 lac per store of depreciation & Zero debt by FY26.

Earning Before Tax = Rs 405 Cr - ( 3000 lacs) = Rs 405 -30 Cr = Rs 375 Cr

25% Tax rate.

Earnings after Tax = Rs 281 Cr.

Let’s say if they don’t do any CAPEX post FY 26 then it will be 7 % CAGR, Then markets will give it at best 10-15 PE multiple, resulting in a market cap range around = Rs 2810 to 4215 Cr. (Which is very very less than today’s market cap = Rs 5945 Cr).

This means with our very conservative back of the envelope ( no excel sheet) calculations it’s not a no- brainer stock,

May be that’s why CEO of the company Rahul Agrawal sold Rs 9 Cr worth of shares recently - (about 40% of his holding)

but let’s assume he don’t know the potential & markets as a whole more intelligent than him ( As somebody bought from him too) lets have more scenario’s see what is priced in.

Scenario 2 -

Let’s say after FY26 they again double their number of stores to 600 stores in 5 years.

SSSG is 7%.

So, by FY31 revenue per store will be = Rs 12cr

Total Revenue = 12 * 600 = Rs7200 Cr.

EBITDA = Rs 7200 * 0.15 = Rs 1080 Cr

Let’s say Rs 15 lac per store of depreciation & Zero debt by FY31.

Earning Before Tax = Rs 1080 Cr - ( 15 * 600) = Rs 1080 - 90 Cr = ~ Rs 1000 Cr

25% Tax rate.

Earnings after Tax = Rs 750 Cr.

Let’s say from here on it’s a 7% CAGR revenue mature company (Fully penetrated with 600 stores) and markets will give it around 10-15x multiple.

Mcap will range around = Rs 7500 to Rs 11,250 Cr.

At a higher range of 11,250 Cr Mcap by FY31 translates into 7% CAGR return.

We can work with another doubling of stores in next 5 years by FY36 and so on till FY41 (total 2400 stores) but i would refrain from doing bcoz not every one is HDFC bank, it not peace of cake to grow 15% CAGR for 20 years, if something can do it ofcourse its a value buy irrespective of its multiple today.

But even if we work with that, returns are going to be around that of the index ~12-15% CAGR, even if we will be proven right after 20 years earning index return is just not worth it.

Ofcourse one can work with higher PE multiples, saying interest rates are going to be low (1-2%) in India after 20- 30 years from now, to this logic all I would say is that PE re-rating is going to be for index too.

Also, one can work with saying in india today all junk food companies trade 6-15x sales (or some multiple of how they are trading globally) and do the same calculations on sales numbers instead of what i did on net profits & say see its trading cheap, yes feel free to do it but this approach never made any sense to me including nonsense ratios like EV/FCF, EV/ EBITDA, EV/CFO etc.

Often folks argue by saying hey look at DMART, 15 PE looks too conservative why not 200 PE ?. It could trade at 30 to 200 PE anywhere. To this I don’t have any answer but I will refrain from assigning high multiples.

Working with low multiples works for me and whenever markets give me high insane multiples in future I take it as a good opportunity to sell ( happy to get lucky in future) but buying decisions are never going to be based on getting lucky in future.

One can say “hey delivery business can grow at much higher rate than 7% cagr for mature stores “ yes that is likely but even if we work with 25% cagr growth in delivery business from 100 Cr to 1000 Cr sales by FY31, it doesn’t add much to the bottom line.

Very few IPO’s are priced attractively and BBQ nation at Rs 500 per share was indeed a very good price. Not sure what markets overall pricing in today but for sure a very bright future.

Risks :-
Changing preference of consumer overtime.
Management fails to expand to 300 stores in 5 years.
Management spending more on loss making international business or non-core Italian restaurant businesses.
Delivery volume dying out and today its at its peak due to pandemic pent up demand.

Disc: Not Invested.

PS: copied from blogpost Barbeque Nation | Value Seeker on permission from owner to have wider discussion.

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Bbq nation has a decent enough core business, but cap allocation towards international & new forays in India & subse write offs means erosion of book value was really significant. Latest BV perked up by money received from pref allotment just before ipo & then ipo proceeds.

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Even the standalone core business was weakening before covid FY17-FY20. Trades at ~13x TTM P/B

Q4 FY22 results : Satisfactory considering the Dine -In restrictions due to Omicron wave.

Rev up in YoY but down in QoQ
EBIDTA is down both on YoY as well as QoQ

Significant drop in PAT both compared on YoY as well as QoQ.

1ce15245-0e6f-4d84-a9a6-c8b0d8c1cb59.pdf (bseindia.com)

Press Release

70% YoY Revenue increase YoY.

Commenting on the business, Mr. Kayum Dhanani, Managing Director, said:
The Qtr started with a strong Omicron wave leading to dine-in operating restrictions. However, recovery post the 3rd wave was equally steep leading to strong revenue growth during the quarter. Over last two and half years, the business has effectively sailed through 3 Covid waves led by strong resilience of the brand and the team. The business has structurally become more robust with strong Balance sheet, diversified revenue streams and profitable presence across multiple geographies and brands.
Ramped up Expansion with 12 new restaurants, taking overall store count to 185 restaurants. With various strategic initiatives, well poised to continue our growth trajectory in the future.

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I have eaten at the pali hill bandra store a few times way back. most people at BBQ Nation would focus mostly on the appetizers and the live grill food. which was largely meat. now considering the fact that meat has a lower shelf life and fish even lower. how come the inventory days are so high at 40-43. Their days payable is at 118 for march 2022. for a cash business, why does it take 118 days to pay off vendors, i can understand the lease liability goes once a month however that may be 20% of the total expenses.

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A big plus for BBQ right now is its uniqueness however it can work against it, what if there is enough penetration and it loses its flavor/appeal in the market? other QSR brands are more mass market and their products can be eaten throughout the day. BBQ is more towards dine-in (all you can eat funda) and you can get maximum fun by dine-in only.

Barbeque nation is no longer a unique business. There are many copycats these days and all are doing quite well.

In Bangalore, before pandemic, barbeque nation used to charge 1300 + taxes for the weekend lunch and dinner. Now it is 1000 + taxes. Copycats are charging 900 to 950 + taxes. I don’t see a premium for the barbeque nation brand anymore. In fact they had to reduce price to be competitive.

Comparing BBQ and other QSR:
A typical customer group take up to 2 hrs for barbeque out of 4.5 hrs of serviceable lunch time. Same customer group may take just 30 to 45 min for QSRs. Moreover QSRs can easily provide takeaways. So if the store is crowded, people can pack and go eat outside. Hence volumes will be more in other QSRs compared to barbeque type restaurants.

More Personal Note:
I always felt eating at BBQ type restaurants as full paisa vasool compared to 350+ + taxes for burger + fries + coke/pepsi.

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I am reading P&L of Barbeque-Nation Hospitality Ltd - Annual report 2022

2018 2019 2020 2021 2022
FINANCE COSTS 536 564 756 848.68 653.03
Interest expense on:
Borrowings 98 173 161 222.51 44.98
Provision for asset retirement obligations 4 4 3 4.37 5.26
Interest on lease liabilities 394 481 341 499.23 508.03
Gross obligation 23 44 44.25
Others 1 0 20 20.00 0.01
Receivable discounting charges 54 157 10 25.55 54.26
Other bank charges 13 17 11 32.77 40.49

Bit confused with the Fiancé cost mentioned in the P&L has the above component.

Any help in understanding Finance cost better with this context ?

SSGR is -2.5% this quarter - q4 fy 22-23
Closed 8 restaurants this year
Added 39 restaurant this year
Planning to add 20 more restaurant next year
Good margin in toscano and overseas restaurant
The delivery business is shrinking which I think is on the expected line
Crosses 1000 cr revenue mark

The main problem which is worry for me is: Closing of the restaurant and their SSGR
which shows the business is no longer unique
On a side note if they don’t close a store in the next 3 years and add 40 stores and shows an average SSGR of 5% they can make an EBITDA of around 400 crore ( Just done back of-envelope calculation might be wrong)

Taken a tracking position 3 months back no new transaction

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At the CMP it is trading a Mcap/Sales of just 2.2x and I think that takes care of the potential down side. Mgmt seems to be not very prudent at execution. Equity dilutions, frequent closures and new subsidiaries etc are a definite drag on the stock. But valuations wise seems cheaper. What do other esteemed members think?

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Completely agree with you. There is not much downside left.

Just my thought - Infact closing of restaurant is not bad when they are adding more at profitable locations. I observed that patterns in all players in similar businesses. Also, almost every retail business is doing that. For me one of the worrying point was an ace investors exit . Anyways , very small position at this stage .

Discloser - hold ( 2% of my portfolio ).

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Barbecue Nation Q4FY23 and Q1FY24 Concall highlights (2).docx (21.1 KB)
Barbecue Nation Monitorables.xlsx (30.5 KB)

Uploading last 2 qtrs comprehensive concall highlights of Barbecue Nation and operating metrics for 10 qtrs and 5 years till FY23.

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Salt acquisition 11% stake to bbq 44% to red apple (80% owned by bbq) i feel salt and Toscana will grow there premium segment buisness

can you please share which ace investor has exited ? Rather few mutual funds have added in QE sept 23.

Good results in this environment

One to watch in qsr is bbq. Sayaji promoters

Its more of a experience than qsr

Is it right price to enter this stock since its near to its IPO price?
What other people think about this stock.

I think yeaa even though there is risk of consumer sector slowdown(ongoing) but bbq has Toscana and salt for premium segment (which they ll scale) has well abroad buisness and has promoters said in last concal that the most margins will sustain so can be at good stage to buy

Bought Devyani today for the same reason