Curious case of " GLOBAL EDUCATION LTD "

This is the company listed in SME space, If you look at the financial the growth & the strength in balance sheet will blow your mind.

Revenue grew from FY13 - Rs 1.1cr to FY17 27 Cr
& Profits grew from FY13- Rs 38 lac to FY17 5 Cr

Mcap - around 60-70 Cr
Debt free
Very high ROE , ROCE > 25
Lots of free cash flow.

My personal link to financials -

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They are mainly into teachers training and other education support services , As mentioned in the link.
I thought it is very possible to generate super normal profits in the business of training & services, As you can hire trainer (spoken English ) at 25 K - 50 K / month salary and that trainer will keep generating profits month on month suppose 100 trainee each paying 5K per month then 5k * 100 = 5 lac over 50 K salary. So back of envelop calculations shows yes you can generate very high ROEs ROS , ROCE etc.

and very high growth is also possible as education sector is very big & its a highly unorganized business so, may be these guys are able to gain market share from unorganized segments.

Also they foray into the into new geography Taminadu recently. Right now there presence is in Maharashtra , MP and Tamilnadu.

It drew my special attention because in india there is a huge scope in educaiton sector and it is one of the highly unorganized sector out there, plus there is lots of demand for skill development which this company caters too.

Also i watch all the videos (even training videos ) they have on Youtube & in more of the video the CEO Rajiv Chand mentioned the growth plan (link below) that by 2020 how they can become 500 Cr mcap company. (7 bagger latest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqyfcVIPKI

They got a very able management and although it ticked everything in my checklist - one question kept bugging me is the shareholding pattern in the company .

The key management person are -

  1. CEO / CFO - Mr Rajiv Chand
  2. Whole time director - Mr Aditya Bhandari

But the management has no skin in the game -

and biggies among public shareholders are

And their salary is not too great -
As per the latest annual report Rajiv chand earns - Rs 5 lac / Month.
& Mr Bhandari earns Rs 50 K / Month.
Which is good for minority shareholders in a way that they are not drawing too high salary.

So the company is owned by mainly -
CLEAR IMPEX PRIVATE LIMITED
&
MIGHTY OVERSEAS PRIVATE LIMITED

I tried to dig really hard to know who owns these two companies, I couldn’t find much about these companies but whatever i found looks too shady to me

It looks like CLEAR IMPEX PRIVATE LIMITED & MIGHTY OVERSEAS PRIVATE LIMITED
is owned by these three gentlemen

AJAY KHEMCHAND CHAUDHARI
LEENA NITIN TATIYA
SURENDRA HIRALALJI KABLE
I am not able to find much about who these gentlemen are…

and then some companies owned by SURENDRA HIRALALJI KABLE are also owned by Global CEO Mr Rajiv Chand -
Sgr School Of Skill Private Limited
Riaan Energy Private Limited

For some reason i feel there is something shady going on here, may not be necessarily true but i am not able to develop conviction about owning this company as i don’t know who are the real promoters what they do.

I think this company started from Raisoni Nagpur institute way before 2000 but they claim that this company started in 2011 and just after 1 - 2 years they started making super normal profits.

I bought this stock after IPO but i sold out due to no promoters clarity but so far i have not seen any corporate governance issue -
Management salary is modest.
Disclosures are proper.
and they have given back cash generated to shareholders in the form on dividends.

I am writing this just to know your thoughts about the company -

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This are the queries which i had written to mgmt before IPO and got responses, did not invest because did not find it satisfactory.

Second set of queries for which I got no revert:-

  1. Short Term loans to the tune of approx 5 crores are granted to
    related parties and we are raising approx 10 crores through equity
    route. If you could help understand the logic of granting loans to known
    parties, when we our selves our raising further money. If you could
    help at what rates of interest the loans have been granted and has
    interest recieved by the company. Received and not accrued.

Were this loans sanctioned by Board of Directors,comprising of Independent Directors as well.

  1. As far as car goes, out of 1 crore car loans, 73.50 lacs pertain
    to one single car loan. Understanding the size of the business, and also
    looking at the list of directors, would appreciate if you could help,
    which working director is using the car.

First set of queries and responses:-

Company has bought few land parcels in the state of Madhya Pradesh for
the purpose of building hostels. Would like to know the following
details regarding hostel

  • stage of completion

  • further planned amount of money to be spend

  • revenue model that company is contemplating by investing in this hostel and also expected amount of revenue

Also it is stated that the above hostel is created in continuation
of our basic object of providing support services to educational
institutes, we intend to construct a Hostel building for own operations
as well as to undertake administration of college, hostel and related
facilities of educational institutes. When we have our registered office
and Corporate office in Maharashtra. The logic of investing in MP.

The Company intends to start short term residential programs on
business management. As per survey and research such type of course has
huge potential in Central India. These are premium courses for Upper
class, and middle upper class students. But such type of course requires
state of art infrastructure facilities.

The site is on the border of Madhya Pradesh and it’s not more than 45
minutes run from our corporate office. Though the state changes, but
the distance is manageable. Importantly adjacent to our site one more
big education campus is also coming which creates a big opportunity for
our model.

Further such type of courses have huge potential from cities like
Raipur, Nagpur and other cities of central India for which we found this
location as central.

There is very little scope of under utilization of resources because
there are colleges under our management to whom we can provide hostel
facilities till the time our course is in full swing.

  • The development is presently in very early stage and in the first phase it will need around an investment of 5 Cr.
  1. Further as per the prospectus Cash Flows are negative till Sep 2016,
    to the tune of 4.07 crores from operating activities. It is explained
    that Income is booked on accrual basis, but cash received at the end of
    the year. Would like to know what kind of credit we give to our clients
    and also the contract model basis on which we enter with clients e.g.
    services to be provided in advance and money recd at the end of year or
    anything else. If you could explain little about Cash flows.
  •      Our
    

mid-year payable and receivables are high as compared to our year end
position because, as per the policy of the Company the accounts are
reconciled at the year end and to the extent possible we try to settle
the balances annually. This policy helps us to avoid any long
outstanding and the possibility of bad debts. In the half yearly balance
sheet the parties are having a running balance hence the debtors
reflected are high as compared to the year - end position.

  •      In
    

our training model for college students, we contract with the colleges
for taking up regular classes on the soft-skill, personality development
and employability skill training. The colleges allot us weekly sessions
in their schedule. The model is developed semester wise. The billing
for these trainings is done on half yearly basis. As on 30th September
the bills for semester wise trainings were raised for which the amount
will be received in a period of around 2 to 3 months.

  •      For
    

most of the services we have monthly billing. We don’t have long
outstanding balances and till date there had been no written off on
account of bad debts.

  1. Further it seems that our basic objective revolves around education,
    but we had invested in Solar Panels and then sold and also had income to
    the tune of 7 lacs from this source. Any specific reason for investing
    in Solar Panels which is in complete contrast to our line of business.

Also is the company presently also invested in solar panels and what us the future course for this business.

  •      Solar
    

power helps to save a lot in the electricity bills (on an average 40%
to 50%) improvements were observed. So initially we thought of providing
the services to colleges so that they can have major savings in
electricity and the same can be invested in other quality area. But yes
as rightly pointed it’s not our core activity. The management soon
realized that the time and resources can be utilized in other unexplored
core areas we immediately sold off the plant in F.Y 2016-17. So
presently we are not having the solar power segment.

  1. Also company is planning to come out with issue of approx 10 crores,
    but presently there are about 6 car loans outstanding to the tune of
    Rs.1.29 crores. This is about more than 10% of the issue size of the
    money. If you could throw some light about all this cars been used by
    whom and other details.
  •      We
    

have vehicle for our directors, head of various department. Further our
training and marketing segment requires travelling and since we have
clients at various locations we invested into vehicles for fast and
efficient working.

Also if you could help us with finances till 31.12.2016 as we have
already crossed this and also future guidance as regards revenue and
profitability. Further it is mentioned that the issue money is going to
be used for Working Capital purposes. So also if you could help
elaborate a little on this.

It will be difficult to share the finances of 31st Dec 2016, as of now.

Ours
is a service industry so lot of investment is required in the man-power
which is a regular monthly expenditure. Till date we have a record of
making the payment of salary on 1st of every month.

Presently
we are in the process of developing and exploring the E- platform for
our training module and for this will need some investment in the
initial phase to develop good quality content and course module. We
intend to move on subscription model for verticals like providing
infrastructure facility, Sale of stationary, library books and
periodicals etc which can easily be automate with the use of
technology. It will not only bring the transparency in work but will
also support our vision of expanding geographically.

Such
development needs investment in human resource. Hence in order to meet
our working capital requirement we are coming up with an IPO.

  1. Short Term Loans has increased from 1.19 crores to 4.39 crores till 30.09.16. If you could help us understand this.

During
the month of July and September we have stationary kit sale resulting
into inflow of funds and further in the mid of the year we even sold our
solar plant further increasing our cash flows. We wanted to invest the
idle funds for short term hence the same were given as Loans to known
parties.

Also the brief background of promoters of the company i.e. Mr.Risabh
Surana and and Mighty Overseas Ltd. Are they related to education sector
or are strategic investors and company is run by professional managers
appointed.

The
company is owned by Mighty Overseas Pvt Ltd. The directors in this
company are Leena Tatiya, Surendra Kamble & Ajay Chaudhary. Mr
Rishabh Sunil Surana is also as a promoter of GEL.

Yes, they are strategic investors and company is run by professional managers appointed.

Thanks
a lot for showing interest in our company, your to the point queries
are appreciable. We hope that you got a satisfactory reply for your
queries. In case you need any further clarifications please feel free to
contact.

It will be our pleasure to have you as our partner in growth. Looking forward for a long term relationship.

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Thanks buddy , I wrote to them regarding Mighty Overseas Pvt Ltd & CLEAR IMPEX PRIVATE LIMITED ltd , i got no reply at all.

and the fact that both of these companies owned by same set of people makes me more uncomfortable.

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Recently i have attended agm and management is queit confident about the growth they are heading towards. The company is only got listed for creating brand among the industries. Company is run by professional and i have met rajiv chand he expects a growth in long term. Next 1 year will decide whether the growth is as per our expectaiton or not

I am invested

Did you ask about Mighty Overseas Pvt Ltd & CLEAR IMPEX PRIVATE LIMITED ltd ? and why management has no ownership at all.

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Yes this is a company which is old and well renounced name in Nagpur. The owner of this company was one of the founding trustee of many colleges running in nagpur

hi jinal…i m also invested here…could u plz elaborate more about agm.it would be great if u give me ur contact no or contact me at 788815166

Folks i am surprised to see this is not on the black list of SEBI … may be because its a SME but its shareholding is very much similar to those in the list. Isn’t it ? Educational system money flowing around in and out maybe ?
we know how educational system works. I hope you guys holding researched about " RAISONI " in detail.

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whats that bro…RAISONi.never heard about it

Being a shareholder you have to be aware of RAISONI … The real promoters of Global Edu are the guys running RAISONI.
The management holds no stake on company. they are just employee with little better salary than anyone else there.

RAISONI is the educational institute in Nagpur from where the birth of this Global happened around 1999 … in one of the talks in youtubue Rajiv chand CEO of company mentioned that… it gets is major chunk of business form RAISONI but there is conflict of interest too hence it may never mention that.
Stock is highly undervalued bcoz of these concerns … its ur call in the end but i feel it is like a complicated version of PP water balls

Isn’t it very similar so far ? Very high IPO subscription then pump in share price after listing and now dump going on …

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Company is targeting to reach 500 cr revenue by 2021 estimated to be growing at 100% every year and CEO is so much confident about the growth path…
YouTube links :
1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hp02IDbMdg

I don’t there is any harm to invest in this company and client testimonials in their website itself speaks about the quality of the work provided by these guys.

You tube channel : Global education (for any info)

Had a word with management, company is going to maintain the past growth rate ratio.

Folks growth is not a concern here … Concern is " management skin in the game " , I have watched all these youtube videos long back , everything looks great to me but the most important thing is missing will they think about minority shareholders in future ?

Folks i have read books , blogs whatever is there on investing and all of them said management skin in the game is the most important thing.
So, Because you own shares of the company you think it should appreciate but would you feel / pray the same if you don’t own any shares in the company ? If your answer is " not necessarily " why would i care then why do you think management here who owns nothing would care ?

second why the same management promotors Owns it in this shady way ?
Why they own through two companies Clear Impex pvt and Mighty Overseas pvt ltd ? why can’t they own directly.

All these Impex & Overseas were created for money laundering and there are many of these (even in the ban list) , created as a import export trading companies hence the name Impex and mostly owned in shady way to hide the identity of promotors.

I really think its a great business , its a great management but i am very doubtful about the promotors.

Thanks,

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In the annual report the managment has written that they r going to expand pan india but not with much capital approach.and it is written that they committed to maximize the shareholders value.

Another good result posted by Global education topline grown by 30 percent QOQ and 14 percent YOY
Net profit rosed 20 percent, with a healthy profit margin of 23.5%
Dividend of 2.5 per shareGELResults30092017.pdf (665.5 KB)

Overall very good result. Require comments of other member

Best part is that profit margin expanded by 6% yoy and interim dividend of 2.5 rs.

I the biggest bargain out there but there is a very good reason its trading cheap. I hope i am wrong about the promoters and patience of you guys pays off.

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furthermore the earing is 16 for the first half consider that company mite have earning of 25 plus for the full year on conservative basis given that stock is quiet undervalued from its peer.

company is sitting healthy on cash with zero debt

hopefully will give good returns to shareholders

Let’s start with disclosure -

  1. You will find my name (Prasenjit Kumar Paul) in the list of “Top 10 Shareholders”.
  2. Few other shareholders in the “Top 10” list are my private clients (HNI).
  3. I am a SEBI registered equity analyst having my own equity advisory company and author of a best selling book.

I was thinking about writing in this topic for the last few months but didn’t do so because I had a bitter experience of writing in this forum. I had initiated article on another high potential SME stock, KP Energy http://forum.valuepickr.com/t/kp-energy-lotus-in-muddy-water/12355. However, it invited lots of unpleasant comment, personal attack just because of the fact that the stock price moved up by 40% in few days after my article. The price jump is due to the fact that I have huge followers those rushed to buy. Unfortunately, many participants in this forum labelled me as “pump and dump”, operator etc.(Although all personal attacks were deleted, still in that process I wasted my valuable time).

Anyways, here is my two cents about Global Education that can help you-
I visited in their Nagpur office and spend around 2-3 hours with the CEO Rajeev Chand, CS Preeti Pacheriwala and other directors. Frankly speaking, I was not highly impressed neither I found anything doubtful. The problem with companies in the “Service” segment is that you can’t get enough insights just by visiting their office whereas for any manufacturing business you will find enough insights by visiting factories meeting key peoples etc. Overall, it seemed a good, expandable, asset-light business model primarily banking on students from “Private Engineering/Management Colleges”.

Also, for some unknown reason, the stock price moved up from 180 level to 350 during April 2017 and then from 350 level dropped back to 170 over the last few months! I had also increased my stake during September 2017. (You will find the details in the next Annual Report)

P.S - I can’t participate/comment further in this discussion as being an equity analyst and “Top 10 Shareholder” my any kind of comment can attract unpleasant situation. It happened to my post about KP Energy and one of the moderators of this forum told that “it’s my responsibility for addressing any concerns of KP Energy!” I don’t want to repeat that kind of situation!

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Did you ask management about Clear Impex and Mighty Overseas ?

Did you ask management about having no skin in the game at all ?

It would be good if you share your rationale behind investing in this company ?

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