Tata Motors - DVR

2cents on Tata Motors and EV in general

The resale value of an EV is 25% lower compared to an ICE vehicle because the battery itself contributes 40% of the cost of the vehicle. And lifespan is about 6-8 years.
And due to this factor, even financing is done at a higher rate for EVs
For Newer ones:
ICE Nexon is priced between INR7.39 lakh - INR8.99 lakh (ex-showroom) compared to the electric Nexon which comes at INR13.99 lakh - INR16.85 lakh. Making this affordable is the key and with higher localization, this can work for Tatas’
Moreover tata motors competitive advantage comes from

  • Product
  • Sales and marketing
  • Capacity Building
  • Ecosystems solutions

Focus on driving ranges and different body styles. India-specific product and not a product that worked for UK US.
Brand building for awareness creation and driving aspiration
Leveraging Tata group’s EV ecosystem
Localizing and aligning with govt mandates. There is no charging standardization today in india.

Tata has rolled out its EVs in Nepal as of now and they are likely to expand in other neighboring countries. Tata Motors is looking at creating national level charging infra with help of Tata power, this will keep them as a top brand in the green mobility space for sure.

Tata Motors has decided to make a splash with 10 EV launches by 2025

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Cars and 2W are the space to watch out for. Estimates are really good and signs are also present as per the commentary from Govt and Companies.

Disclaimer : Invested in 2W - Endurance
Cars - Tata motors


Depreciation is function of fixed assets like factory/machinery. if the company has added new plants and machinery(that became operational) in recent years, it would lead to increase in depreciation values. any fixed assets need to be depreciated over 20-30 years based on the life(of assets) considered by company.

As per below article, Russia-Ukraine war can further threaten availability of semiconductors. Two material Neon gas (50-60% world production by Ukraine) and Palladium (30-40% world production by Russia) which is used in manufacturing of semiconductors could exaggerate semiconductor availability issue which recently started to improve. In short term it may not affect availability due to inventory build up by manufacturer and end users but if this war continue for another couple of month, that will seriously affect players like tata motors.

Disclosure: Invested.

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Auto players have aggressive target to reach 48% market share in EV by 2030 and 63% by 2035 for European markets. From below image it looks like JLR is smaller player in European market (there is always possibilities to increase their market share from winners, obviously if they can perform) and have less aggressive target on EV compared to peers.

Happy to listen to view of the other fellow members.

Disc: Invested


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Anybody following this company has any idea, what exactly are they doing here?


“In addition to existing State Transport Units (STUs) and government fleets, TSCMSL will also cater to all business opportunities across passenger mobility applications.”

Is there a plan to get into Ola / Uber type of service?


They gave some details about it in Q4 investor call last week. Idea is to provide EV based mobility solutions in commercial passenger space. They may sell EVs to the STUs or private companies looking to move their staff.

Idea is to create a separate subsidiary for EVs in commercial vehicle space. The customer can buy the vehicle in lump sum or pay at km basis.


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#Tatamotors Food for thought. Lowest price moat or chasing topline?



It seems like you have not gone through the latest investor conference call. All these questions have been answered in detail by the management.

We all should listen/ read management commentary before raising questions on company’s strategy.


Tata Motors holds 72.48% in Tata technology which is going to be listed after an IPO.

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Noted that the Month on Month sales has dipped for the first time in a long time.
The ICE sales is at 43,321 as against 43,483 during July and EV at 3,845 as against 4,022 last month. YoY sales growth continues to be robust.

Disclosure: Remian invested from lower levels.

Tata EV - no need to go to charging station for charging !

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Tata motors - DVR shares has gained approx 20% in last one month , but Tata motors is up hardly by 3-5%. When both shares are same except the voting rights than price trend should also have same correlation. Either both should be up by 20% but that’s not the case here. Is it ok to sell DVR shares now and buy Normal shares assuming they will follow the DVR trend.

Can anyone please explain me if there is any particular reason here or my understanding is wrong.

Disc: Invested in both Tata motors - DVR and Tata motors.

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