StageInvesting +Elliot Waves

Value Buys or Value Traps ?

HDFC Life , ICICIPRU
Low penetration, huge TAM , favorable demography !

Several times , we have heard this narrative about Indian insurance sector .

But for last 5 years , none of these two leading insurance sector companies has done any worthwhile value-creation for its shareholders.

Balance-sheets have improved but charts still look choppy.

Is it regulatory overhang or something else!

HDFC Life
Whenever it shows promise, it disappoints in next few weeks.

ICICI Pru

Choppy chart.

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Is similar chart is for sbi life and icici Lombard also
Can you share

Market Tip: Birds of a flock fly together (especially long distance flyers-80% of the times).

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interestingly in insurance sector the distributor has turned out to be better bet then the product offering company. PBFintech has been showing robust growth numbers over last 6+ quarters which also got reflected in its share price to a large extent.
Insurer share prices not moving much for prolonged period of time gives some interesting insights into how market perceives regulatory risks and other aspects of business model. Let us see if the view changes in future.

Disclaimer: Invested in PBFintech (from much lower price point), may exit anytime without any notice. No recommendation whatsoever, please do your own due diligence.

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Hi @StageInvesting

Could you suggest some good books / content on Elliot wave theory . Apologies if you have already delved on this in the thread , but I couldn’t find hence asking.

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This is underway and going as per expectations. Stay alert, stay cautious,

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Silver crosses 101000/ per kg first time in history…let’s see how it plays out in next 3-5 years.

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Gold also breaking out of a base. Let’s keep an eye.

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US Nasdaq and SPY rally was largely driven by Magnificent 7.

Now situation looking very worrisome.

Let’s look at these 7 stocks one by one on weekly charts .

APPLE, Amazon and Google - all 3 have gone below 40WEMA , expect a long price or time correction if they stay below this 40WEMA ( Weekly Exponential Moving Average ) for one more week .

Out of MAGNIFICENT7, only 1 stock ie Meta is trading above 40WEMA , just trading near support there.

Other 3 stocks NVDA , Microsoft ,Tesla already trading below 40 WEMA.

Overall not a good picture .

The combined chart also trading below 40 WEMA .

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Whenever Nasdaq hits RSI 30 (pink line) , it tends to bounce back .

Last 10 years history shows that .

3 Exceptions -, August 2015 ( went as low as 20) Oct 2018 (touched 21) and Jan 2022 (touched 25).

Let’s see whether it would bounce back this time or it would be an exception.

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Coming below 300 SMA is also a rare occurrence coming below that in a year is also good indication for bull rally/good bounce back ahead.

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Our market is witnessing a broad-based rally now. Ist it a bear market pullback or is the correction over? Where does the market stand as per stageinvesting?

To us , it seems like a stock-pickers rally.

Recovery !

We recently wrote this note somewhere else. Hope this would be helpful.

Types Of Bounces !

During recovery of the markets , one should know the type of bounces he or she is playing .

All stocks bounce during recovery but there is a fine difference .

Generally speaking there are 2 types of bounces after a stock has fallen :

Type A
-Type B


Type A

This happens in certain stocks where valuations have gone very high or some false narrative was built .

Here stock falls a lot ( leg A ) and then recovers a bit during recovery ( leg B ) because many of the retail investors find the stock very cheap ( they count the fall %ge from the top and don’t understand the valuation part and think that stock has become cheap and jump into it )

Here stocks falls ( A ) , recovers a bit ( B) and then after sometime it starts falling again ( C )

In these type of stocks , it may take years to achieve their previous high -levels or they may never achieve it .

Type B

These are those stocks that had also gone up , valuations were good ( not extreme ) , but these stocks also fall along with the market .

And they complete their fall during the first part of correction .

Value buyers ( who understand fundamentals ) find them cheap and start accumulating.

These are the stocks that have high probability of crossing their last time highs .

Keep in mind - nothing happens in straight line - both type A and type B stocks would go up and down but one needs to see which is going in uptrend and which one is making dead- cat bounces in a downtrend

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Wondering whether you can take a relook into MPS now. It has been fairly resilient during the correction ..thx a ton

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An observation:

Initial rally is hppening in well-established names and old established sectors e.g. Big NBFCs (Chola, Bajaj, Sriram, Mah Scooters ) , Fertilisers ( Chambal, Coromandal) , Hospital (Narayana ),Indigo, HDFC LiFE ,SRF, ABCAPITAL,Kotak,Vadilal etc.

This is on the basis of initial technical structure.

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Silver all time high was $48/Oz , achived in 2011.

Current price is $33/Oz .

Can silver go back to its all time high ?

Gold has done it . It crossed its 2011 high in 2023.

Can silver follow its foot-steps?

Here’s the monthly chart (monthly charts take months to act ).

Note :Here we’re referring to international price movements.

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Stocks in our radar as on date , based on relative strength criteria :

  1. Kotak Bank
  2. Bajaj Finance
  3. Solar Industry
  4. Chola Inv & Fin
  5. Godrej Property
  6. Chambal Fert
  7. HDFC Life
  8. Indigo
  9. Maharashtra Scooters
  10. Mazdock

Disclaimer : Biased as invested.No buy/sell recommendations.

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Hi Stage!

Tried studying Carborundum. Me think, some fundamental triggers:

  1. Their Russian assets—maybe a plot twist , adding to the topline?
  2. Their planned silicon products—possibly a proxy for India’s chip fabrication dreams? Or just silicon valley dreams? :zany_face: :zany_face:

Chart guesswork.

Can you run a stage and see.
If this look like ready to sprint, or does it look like a dog in a horse race? can we guess if this one’s got hooves or just paws!

D - I’ve a position ~980, want to do more. all above are guess work from beginner no buy/sell recommendation.

The view on Nasdaq and Indian IT index worked out well and is unfolding very fast.

Here’s some interesting data - Eurpean funds hold 17% of US equity .

And like we worry about FIIs outflow, there’s a case for FII’s outflow for US also.

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A high wave candle is formed on the weekly chart, which implies indecision, so we can see a small consolidation.

Carborundum is still below 20WMA so there can be time wasting.

Disclaimer :No buy/sell recommedation. This chart is just for technical studies.

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