Sanghvi Movers

Q1FY25 Concall Summary

Business Updates

  • The reduction in revenue was due to lower yields and lower capacity utilization with yields falling to 2.04% per month and utilization falling from 84% to 77%
  • The capacity shall further drop along with a fall in blended yield in Q2 as well
  • Based on ongoing visibility there could be an additional capex of Rs 120-140 crores during the year
  • The company has a fleet of 361 cranes on the books and there are around 40 cranes which are held as asset for sale
  • The company has a cash corpus of Rs 175 crores which is kept aside for long term strategic plans and this money is parked in bank funds and mutual funds
  • The company is the fourth largest crane rental company in the world and the largest in India/Asia region
  • The company will spin off two business from its company viz the renewable EPC business and the logistics business and this will be done this year
  • The value creation exercise is being done in consultation with Bain & Co.

Participants

Invest Analytics Advisory LLP

Trustline PMS

Nirmal Bang

Sapphire Capital

JM Financial

QnA

  • The project execution is slow and ground approach is muted along with slowdown in capex activities which should put pressure in near term
  • The new businesses in renewable EPC and logistics are volume-based business with low EBITDA margins. Going forward these should grow at more than 50% yoy the management has taken a call of carving out these activities from the parent company and they will be 100% owned subsidiaries
  • These areas of business are currently cost centers for the company and the idea is to carve them out and run them as separate business with a new CEO who will run this business in a certain manner
  • The erection that has taken place in Q1 has declined by 335 on a yoy basis in terms of wind turbine erections and this should go up post monsoon and thus H2 should see better numbers for crane rental business
  • Earlier when the company started it used to purchase used cranes and slowly they started buying German cranes which are costlier and have lower yields because the purchase cost is higher and thus yields are lower compared to Chinese cranes which are cheaper
  • The EPC business will require bank guarantees for which the company is tying up with banks and for debtors the threshold will be 30-45 days
  • The orderbook of wind turbine generators have gone up but there have been delays in land availability and installations which has led to lower installations in Q1
  • The management is looking at scaling up the crane rental business but will also look at quality of customer, financial closures and also whether the company is able to achieve a certain size and scale in the EPC business which should have sustainable EBITDA margins of 12-15%
  • The higher rate of commission on profits in FY24 was for one year only and for the remaining part of the contract the MD will continue to get commission on profit at earlier rate of 1.5%
  • The crane rental business in FY25 should remain more or less flat compared to a yearly basis because already 4-5 months have been lost to elections and heavy monsoons
  • The renewable equipment space is extremely in demand and there is a lot of Chinese equipment entering the Indian market and competitive intensity is very high
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While it is true that ISTS is expiring, I understand that the waiver has been extended multiple times since its initial introduction.

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Only Union seems to be interested?

Where to get this data from? Thanks

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Suzlon Q1 call is a good read. Company expects pan India installations of 5 GW in FY 25.

Also elaborates execution issues:

  • Availability of Land (particularly in Karnataka conversion from agri to non agri is cumbersome).

  • Connectivity issues (delay in substations coming up)

  • Third party BOP capacity build up still happening. Sanghvi should benefit here if they develop a reputation for good service and timely execution. There is a shortage of supply of reliable contractors here.

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Both Suzlon and Inox mentioned that they have lifetime highest order books. Some people on social media were concerned that budget allocation has come down for wind and increased for solar. Such a massive orderbook will need multiple players like Sanghvi

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Sharing recent management interview - largely same points discussed in previous investor call.

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repeating same things again and again like a robot.

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This would mean a lot of heavy duty cranes would be rented out by Suzlon. The question is whether Suzlon will rent out the ones by Sanghvi Movers Limited or do it in house?

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Erection and commissioning= EPC. Unless we hear that Suzlon has purchased 10s of cranes for captive use, this doesn’t mean that they won’t rent cranes from the likes of Sanghvi.

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Wind installation picking up pace:

April- June : 1139;
April- July : 1306;
April- August : 1456;
April- September : 1551MW (monsoons)
April - October: 1659
April - November: 1930
April- December : 2103
April- Jan : 2336
April-Feb : 2520
April23-March24 : 3253
1April24-30thApril: 275
April- August24 : 1305;

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@rcinvestor999 inspired by you i started tracking all renewables both wind and solar. data in below spreadsheet which is public:

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Great. This helps a lot. thank you.

Installations should see pick up 2nd half hopefully.

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Split Record date declared 27th September 2024 - https://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/fe4adfef-60db-418a-839a-28e7aa15043e.pdf

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The Solar Energy Corporation of India (SECI) has invited proposals for setting up of a 500 MW capacity ISTS-connected offshore wind power project in Gujarat on build-own-operate basis.

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Thanks for updating latest numbers on google sheet. :+1::pray:

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Expanding into Saudi Arabia - to quote “To cater to the increasing market base in Saudi Arabia and to engage in the business of providing comprehensive crane rental services and heavy lifting solutions to Oil & Gas, Petrochemicals, Electricity & Power, Offshore, Construction, Industrial and Infrastructure Sectors across the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. To also provide the cranes along with skilled operators, engineers and technical personnel to ensure the efficient and safe operation of all equipments and to offer end-to-end logistical support, transportation and delivery of cranes and equipment to project sites…”

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