MOLD TEK PACKAGING---dividend plus growth

MTPL is doing a QIP of INR 150 Cr at 722.40 a share (before 5% discount), proceeds will used for adding up capacities and setting up new plants. One of their major client has asked them to double up their capacity in 2 of their south indian plants as well.

Need info from members names of QIB here, if any one can help me out.

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Edits: Grammar

Here are my few thoughts and how I interpret the recent news

  1. On raising equity (via QIP) as opposed to debt: Their average CFO in last 6-7 years is ~45-48 crores. Assume banks ask for a 3 times interest cover (for a loan at say 9%). This would mean banks assume they can pay an interest of ~16 crores (48/3). A loan at 9% with interest at 16 crore would mean a principal of ~177 crores (16 crore/9%). All in, Mold Tek can raise around their current capex-need only by debt. Additionally this would mean, their CFO would decrease to 32 crores instantly to service their debt, assuming there is no growth. So roughly, dividends would go down by 33%.

Coming to current scenario of 150 cr raised via QIP. Their current book value is ~288 crore. Which means, because of QIP, there is going to be roughly ~32% equity dilution. So dividends would go down by 33% which is same as above for existing investors but now you have a company without 170 crores of additional long term debt.

Now that, from either equity or debt raise, investors are not worse off (if we assume this does not increase CFO). But here is the caveat: as you can appreciate, if there is increase in CFO, equity investors are worse off in QIP as opposed to raising debt. Say CFO goes up to 50% to 60 crores. In QIP scenario, current investors will capture only 68-70% of it ~42 crores. But in debt scenario, investors will capture ~44 crores (60crores - 16 crores). 5% delta essentially. Which I don’t believe is quite a big trade off in long run. Besides, ability to raise QIP successfully is plus in itself as investors are willing to put more money into the business as equity.

Besides, with their policy of paying dividends, it is hard to raise debt with literally 3 crores cash in bank. Think the real area to challenge the management is why maintain 3 crores in bank for a 160 crore topline business where Working Capital alone is 90-100crores.

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QIP document
https://www.moldtekpackaging.com/qip-investors.html

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Dear all Valued member, in the past 2 qtr, promoter has reduced stake almost 3%, that quite a lot thinking about low holding already they are having. Anyone has any idea for this reduction of holding. Business is going good and business prospect for future also good, still promoter reduced stake. There might be chance that promoter finds the stock as overvalued hence sold it.

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Another thing to note here is, sold shares seems to went FIIs DIIs and not to retail public.

Promoter selling is not important for investor unless it is huge as promoter may want to diversify asset or may have cash requirement for personal use

Disc…invested and presented same view in KEI ind. thread when promoters were selling.

Q3FY22 results - https://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/94aff2ed-5345-477f-aa91-dae47e30974a.pdf

Con-call today at 4:30 PM

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Can someone clarify this doubt - Asian Paints’s Q3FY22 saw revenue growth of ~20% QoQ but still MTPL’s paints segment saw a decline.

Thanks
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They are not the sole suppliers of asian paints, also asian paints don’t take IML packs from them which has higher value which berger uses so due to product mix the correlation won’t exist every time between AP and moldtek

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Asian paints revenue growth came from the subsequent price hikes they have taken. In volume terms it’s degrowth.

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Q3FY22 Notes

9M - Revenue up by 43%, EBITDA up 42%, PAT up by 54%

Q3 - Revenue up 20%, EBITDA up 14% - per kg EBITDA increased 19% (Q3FY21 36.4, Q2FY22 42.7 ,Q3FY22 43.1) - RM cost/kg Rs 110 (Q3Fy21 Rs 85 , 30% up)

IML/NonIML share stagnating/stabilising - IML growth coming from FMCG - paints and lubes IML still to pick up

104cr QIP at 722.4 per share - Mysore and Vizag expansions 60cr as capacity doubling on projections given by Asian Paints in next 2 years - would supply to Castrol Kolkata from Vizag - Sultanpur expansion OTC pharma requirement may come up anytime, so staying agile with cash - total 9MYTD capex 36cr - 90cr total capex in next 12 months - 250cr in 3 yrs

Bagged high value adding orders from Amul, PVR cinemas, Biostadt , Skyline labs Paints, Beleven, Vital Pharma, etc

Pumps order from HUL and trials for RB, Himalaya, Apollo. Export orders also pursued

Placed order for machines and moulds for IBM packaging for pharma - Unit1 Hyderabad building to be completed by Mar22 - pilot plant to start in May22, order from a client to be confirmed in a week - expansion to be completed by Dec22 - during DMF approval stage plant to start supplies to FMCG and cosmetics - total capex 40cr over FY22 and FY23

QR coded IML containers for UDP Pvt Ltd and expecting sizeable orders from prestigious lubes, food and paint customers - trials at 1 paint, 3 lube, 4 FMCG companies - entered into MOU with IT service provider to provide track and trace services - first order to be executed in Feb22 (question - which IT?)

Paints - 54% share revenue, 58% share of volume - 17% up yoy, 8% down qoq - 8% down in tonnage yoy, 6% qoq - because of price hikes by paint companies in Nov - Feb sales back on track - EBITDA/kg 30-35rs

Lubes - 23% share revenue, 25% share of volume -22% up yoy, 20% up qoq - EBITDA/kg 30-35rs - 15% increase in volumes qoq - stagnant industry volumes, growth is likely to come from QR coded IML as lubes are most affected by counterfeit

FMCG - 22% revenue, 18% volume - 26% up yoy, 6.3% up qoq - 38% increase in volumes of thin-walled products yoy, 12% qoq - major driver in increase in EBITDA/kg - square packs have 35-40rs EBITDA/kg - thin walled packs have 80-100rs ebitda/kg - pump revenue 1cr in Q3 - will pick up as orders have been received - 2cr to 3crs/qtr from April 22

Kanpur plant started in Oct21, 4cr capex

Started using recycled material in last few months - no issue in quality of RM - clients encouraging to blend with fresh RM for ESG - price spread is 15%

Next segments - nutraceuticals, bread butter jams, beverages, detergents - hygienic packaging

Guidance - 13%-14% volume growth in FY22, 18%-20% for FY23 - Pumps will have 50cr turnover in 3 yrs (35% pumps are still being imported from China + low current quality)

Asset turns - 3.5x for others and 2.5x for IBM

Working capital - SMEs place advance orders, 60-70 days for large companies

Entry barrier - fully backward integrated - robots, machines, IML labels are self assembled

New team being created for exports - working to increase confidence as single source supplier for large FMCGs through consistent procurement and delivery

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No reason that I could find . Although it has recovered somewhat.

But bigger picture, it’s a steady compounder with a few optionalities.

  1. Pumps - Nowadays I see pumps everywhere - OTC pharma, cosmetics, shampoo, etc. Market is getting bigger. Going forward, I expect to see some segmentation in quality of pumps as well.

  2. IML coding - Again increasing trend. Reduces thin plastic film usage. Win-win. Once commodity prices stabilise, I expect this to pick up.

  3. Pharma packaging - Pharma packaging in India is still pretty basic. Very nascent sector. Will take time to develop. Expect to take place in OTC branded medicines, neutraceutical, lifestyle drugs in that order.

Right now industry is monopsony (or any similar word for few buyer many seller). With product differentiation and need for better packaging, industry may become oligopolistic. However, that I feel is atleast a decade away. The technology integration should be so strong that competitors and new entrants would fear the longer pain period in setting up capacity and expertise. Eg: APL Apollo in structural steel. Until, that happens, happy to hold as company is taking steps in that direction.

Disc : Inveated, biased. Added recently.

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Q2 & Q3 sales are stagnant 160cr, even volume dropped from 7583 ton to 7320 still they have managed to raise ebidta to Rs 43.07/kg from rs 42.70/kg , reason is FMCG traction, thin wall product is Rs 80-100/kg which is double from paints & lubes , this opportunity is 10-15k cr or more, as retails expand in Small towns the IML & QR coded IML will be flooded in the mkt, also with the new products development 3-4 every year they r coming with innovative ideas, Due pollution issue EU/US can outsource more to India rather than China, As MDT is BI with own robots, moulds, graphics design, labels, that gives them competitive edge over china as well, also new generation team up to cater export which wasn’t effective earlier, long term story, daily fluctuation wont matter , only matter of observation is consumption of total tonnage & capacity

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I have tried to summarize packaging industry and Mold Tek packaging.

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Some interesting insights from the latest analyst meet of the company - edible oil segment bouncing back, F&F remains strong, robust volume guidance for next 3-4 years, and entry into USA market.

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As mentioned by the company in Q3FY22 concall, promoter group shareholding has increased to 34.5% post the conversion of warrants

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hello friends, have all of you converted your detachable warrants into equity shares? I hope this process can be done online?

How can we do that? Is it all shareholder gets warrant?

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I have done it. It is quite easy. The process has been detailed in this very thread by @nevds.365 (Aug 21 last year). So please search for it and here is the link:

After reading the post, these are a few pointers. The code to be used for offmarket transfer of shares to the Escrow account is: Code 29 (DEPOSIT OF SECURITIES WITH ESCROW AGENT AND ITS RETURN).

You can call Mr. Thakur Vishal Singh, Company Secretary, on 040-40300330. Sometimes, instead of him, Ms Ramani attends the call. She is very helpful.

It is important that folks transfer their warrants fast because I think May is the last month for such transfer after which the warrants might lapse. The warrant exercise form and instructions are also on their site:

All the best,
Sav

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Q4FY22 con-call notes

Volume Growth -

  • FY22 - volume growth - 11.24% YoY to 29,250 tons from 26,300 tons. Personally, I was expecting to see atleast 15% volume growth due to the 15-20% growth projection given by the co. multiple times during the year. 25% degrowth in edible oil volume for the year could be a major reason for the low volume growth.
  • FY23 growth projection - 15-20%
  • Paints, lubricants: +11-13%. Edible oil sector growth: -25%. F&F: +40%
  • EBITDA/kg has increased from 36.72/kg in FY21 to 41.78/kg in FY22. “For FY23, 43-45/kg can be possible”
  • Q4 volume numbers - paints: 4676 tonne (55%), lubes: 2140 tonne (25%), F&F: 1580 tonne (19%). Total - 8400 tonne. Value wise contribution - paint (52%), lube (24%) and F&F (24%)
  • In the month of April 2022 (i.e. first month of FY23), volumes have grown at 18.9%.

Reduction in margins QoQ -

  • All RM inc in FY22 was passed on to clients. Sometimes there is 1 month or 1 quarter lag in passing on the price inc. Due to this, we could not pass on the price increase of march by April, so profitability took a hit temporarily.
  • Decrease in RM prices has been observed in April and May. So this phenomenon, along with obtaining RM price differential for March would boost the margins in Q1FY23.

General Updates -

  • Regarding the 4 big F&F clients the co. was talking about in Q3FY22 concall, one of them is GSK for which molds are being built. Another one is Kissan Jam packs, while the other two are also existing brands, not new ones. (potential to add 40 crs revenue in a full year, but for FY23: ~30 crs)
  • “Berger is asking us to start supply from July-Aug this year from sandila plant”
  • Regarding the increase in debtors - “Asian paints and some others have increased credit period. Also, RM price inc was also a reason”.
  • No significant improvement in pumps scenario

QR coded IML pack -

  • Gulf has almost cleared the trail batch sent to them (they are currently shifting in one premium brand - which goes in big towns. Will start in June’22. Once they have confidence, they will implement in more brands and also deeper in villages etc.)
  • an edible oil has also been signed (they want a QR code on lid also, so MTPL has got another machine)
  • Castrol is also undergoing trials but have not mentioned any timeline
  • good to see the QR-coded IML finally starting to get clients, although quite slowly for now.

IBM -

  • Target is to reach 200 crs revenue in 3 yrs time starting oct’22. Samples of CRC caps and bottles will be sent in oct’22 which will take 5-6 months to get clearance from regulatory bodies and pharms cos.
  • For FY23 revenue from IBM would be: ~10-12crs. For FY24: 60-75 crs. 3 yrs down the line: 180-250 crs per annum

EPR regulations -

  • will be more of a challenge for film packaging companies but for container packaging co. like us, we can buy recycled polymer from cos. And use it.
  • Asian paints has some brands where it is mandatory for MTPL to use 10-12% of total polymer as the recycled one. Earlier % allowed was 7-8%. This is being done since last 1-1.5 yrs
  • FY25 onwards, 20% has to be reused. More and more clients are asking MTPL to supply partly mixed recycled containers.
  • The recycling companies have adopted really good technologies offlate and it allows to use even more than 20% recycled materials especially in paints.

Capex for FY23 -

  • ~80 crs (50 crs - sultanpur, 12-15 crs for AP expansion, 12-15 crs for IML printing expansion remaining in kanpur)
  • for reference: FY22 capex - 51 crs
  • FY24 can be 80-100 crs as well

Capacity utilization - 70%

  • For Injection molding, jars will use 80-90% of capacity, caps will use hardly 40-50%. In injection molding, 70-75% is the best capacity utiliz, anyone can achieve unless they are selling only jars or only caps.

Results PDF - https://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/1e1e79b1-b3a6-4a2e-bcf2-7158f97c17d5.pdf
Concall link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bS7ShBwLX0

PS - The US restaurant that MTPL exports to is ‘Desi Bites’. They had exported to US in Jan’22 (Source - Mold Tek Packaging Ltd | See Recent Shipments | ImportGenius)

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