Midhun's Investment journey and Space to organize investment ideas

Hi ,

Thanks for the kind words. I am very poor in selling and generally give the benefit of doubt. But I have cut allocations to both Navin and Neuland when they had run up ( To my dismay Neuland doubled from my sale price ). I am yet to figure out a framework to selling . I think beyond a point investing is all about managing the emotions effectively.

Regarding stock selection I try to follow the following framework while analyzing :

Quality of business :right_arrow: Quality of Management :right_arrow: Assessment of risk :right_arrow: Valuation :right_arrow: Margin of Safety.

But there have been several instances of not adhering to this framework and paying the price in the past. So it’s a continuous learning process and the endeavour is to become become better and better as time goes by and learning from your experience.

P.S : I have paid my tuition fees many times over to the market :joy:

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Hi Midhun,

Amazing portfolio and great framework for stock selection.Could you please elaborate the rationale behind vintage coffee,sundrop and dishman carbogen?

Hi,

In the case of

Dishman Carbogen :

  • I was impressed by their capabilities in ADC , HIPO APIs etc. There are very few companies like Cohance and Piramal with ADC capabilities which is slated to grow at c. 20% + as a therapy (One of the highest growth).
  • They have solid international manufacturing foot print including Swiss, France, China and the Netherlands .
  • Their operating profit margins are on an improving trend and should be 20%+ from the current 17% levels.
  • They are saddled with high debt and Goodwill post the Carbogen Amics acquisition.
  • The company with strong capabilities like ADC and HIPO is available at an EV of C. 6500 cr with improving fundamentals .
  • There are risks involved like high debt , management not keeping up with commitments etc. But I think the negatives are captured in the valuations.

Sundrop Brands :

  • Sundrop brands have 3 power brands Viz: ACT 2 | Sundrop | Delmonte in it stable post the merger with Delmonte foods .
  • The merger synergies are yet to play out which I believe will be value accretive.
  • They have very poor margins and low return matrices which management has guided will improve.
  • I believe the products and brands are strong and Sundrop is a debt free company in FMCGspace with a market cap of c. 3000 cr.

Vintage Coffee :

  • Vintage Coffee is a play on the capacity expansion .
  • They have been constantly increasing their capacity from 4500 MT to 6500 MT and now another 4500 MT is upcoming.
  • They are presently operating in CIS countries and South East Asian countries . Plans to expand to US, Australia and NZ.
  • It has been consistently growing YOY and valuations seems to be reasonable at a forward level.

P.S: These are my thoughts. I might be completely wrong , as have been often in the past . Please do your due diligence. I might exit the positions without prior notice if my thinking changes .

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About Vintage Coffee,
for next 2 qtrs they will not have volume increase or revenue increase as they are 100% utilized and there profit will grow from next FY,is my assumption right? or there will be uptick in there revenue due to other factors in immediate qrts? please help me with your views?

Yes , they are running at full capacity. But management in the concall commented that Q3 and Q4 should be better than Q1 and Q2 . In any case even if they maintain the Q2 run rate they should be doing substantially better on YOY basis.

They seem to be ramping up capacity on a fast clip. In the call they maintained that the additional 4500 MT facility will come on line by March 2026 and will start contributing immediately (Q1 FY 27).

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i think very few people have this as an investment. I am among those few, have been invested since many years probably since i was a newbie and liked FMCG sector, which by the way i like even now…and found out RJ holds a stake in this company which was then 1500 cr company…this was maybe around 10 years back…so a cagr of around 7% out of a partially borrowed conviction for me…I didnt sell it for few reasons earlier that it was a kind of subsidiary of a large US based conagra and india was not so ready for processed food then and i anticipated with time it will be and more conagra brands will be launched here…turned out conagra cashed away…but I remained…then PE drama and delmonte buying…it purchased a company almost as big as itself which became its subsidiary but not a decent mention anywhere in websites when i last checked… not sure whats in mind of PE…no one knows…i still remained because of reason similar to yours…not good at selling, no proper selling framework…and a believer in Indian FMCG…less exposure to smallcaps…and not a big allocation to this…so i simply let it be…

Good to find someone to discuss this company with…what do u think about the PE which invested in Sundrop and why do they immediately purchased delmonte instead of improving Sundrop first? what do u think is their vision of sundrop and delmonte and how does the synergy of both brands would work? Even maybe an year after acquisition, in public available information, i could not gather anything decent about how synergy is working, growth rate improvements of each brands, strategy etc. …for example if we compare acquisitions by Tata consumer…every thing is crystal clear (as clear as it can get for a simple retail investor like me) about new brands like capital foods, organic india, soulful…

This company has so far been one of the wishful investing basket for me and what i have seen in last decade or so is all my wishful basket stocks have fared poorly…a 7% cagr has still been a savings grace compared to even losses in some of this basket…maybe because this company is inherently part of the good old simple FMCG sector…

Would be great to know your thoughts…

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Hi @Investor_No_1 ,

The reason for my entry into Sundrop brands were as follows:

  1. The power brands of ACT 2 , Delmonde and sundrop.
  2. The low market cap of c. 3000 cr vis-a-vis the opportunity
  3. The possible merger synergies with Delmonde .

Sundrop brands has very poor EBITDA margins compared to larger peers like HUL , ITC , Dabur etc. I think adding more brands and SKUs like in the case of Delmonte should help improve margins if they are able to get their act right. This means they have to right size their distribution and go to market & Increase reach (Currently servicing only 5 lakh retailers).
Parts of their portfolio is tilted towards healthy binging /healthy oils etc which is catching up as a trend in India.

As regards to their PE management , I believe they are ultimately held by a consortium including Samara Capital, Convergent etc which are funds with investments including More Retail ( along with Amazon) among others. With the acquisition of Delmonte even Bharti group has a substantial share holding. My experience with PE owned companies have been mixed in the past. But I wouldn’t attach much weight to it. Ultimately it depends of the Managers who run the show to deliver the results.
I plan to give it a run of atleast couple of quarters to see the direction of the company and then decide .

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The majority of sales would be from Sundrop, I guess. As such, Vegetable Oils, even branded ones, have extremely low margins. I guess it’s almost impossible to have margins above 5% as it’s an extremely competitive space. Similar to the wheat flour business, where even the biggest brands have negligible margins.

Act 2 while a great brand is limited to kids. I dont think i have ever made popcorn at home, its more of a movie-going habit. Delmonte is a good product with excellent salience in its target market. That’s the only bet, the company has I guess.

Studied it at the time of the merger and decided not to go ahead with it as 2 out 3 brands I felt the upside was limited.

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FT article on Indian markets under performance vis a vis other EM peers.

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Ramblings on 2025 and Aspirations for 2026

Only time will tell if my decision was right. Pf did exceedingly well , raked up 100% returns this year with very small cash infusion. I am pretty sure this kind of returns will never happen in the years to come and its a case of “rising tide lifts all boats”.

The above mentioned was from the last years musings. This prophecy more than happened and in 2025 the portfolio is c. 10% down from the highs made in December last year. While January was a slide , February was carnage and March was the culmination of the down fall. Classic investor psychology played out to the “T”. Initially it was self assurance, then self doubt and going back to the thesis for confirmation on the bullish narrative , then "simple psychological denial " a la Charlie and then finally despair and hopelessness . At the nadir I sold off many of the duds and sat on cash. The portfolio took another 4-5 months to touch the all time highs and is currently down by c. 10% from the ATHs. The broader market has been benign for more than a year while the frontline indices and large caps have done relatively better. The year gone by reinforced the fact that the markets are supreme and what ever chest thumping done on your stock picking skills has been crushed :pensive_face:.

General updates on stocks

Some of the picks that did well in 2025 :
Yatra.com picked up in March did c. 2.5 x
Cartrade did c. 3 x
Axiscades , TD Power and Frontier Springs almost doubled .

Stocks that I exited

Shakti Pump, Zen tech, HBL Egg, Techno Electric

Stocks that I added

Stallion , Connplex cinemas, TARIL, Kaynes (after the recent fall), Dishman, Privi, Hindustan Zinc, Vintage Coffee, Genesys etc.

Stocks that I hold in paper loss

Ceinsys, E2E, Websol, TARIL, Bluejet

The one strategy that had worked in the previous year which was not so rewarding in the current year was PEAD investing (This name was found out this year :grinning_face:). I guess PEAD investing works when the market is in a bullish phase. But I continue to adhere to the practice of going through the result summary of most of the companies in the listed space for earning surprises …

Few of the aspirations which was jotted down last year that did not happen :

  • Study technical analysis
  • Contribute to VP forum meaningfully
  • Read more books.
  • Start meditation

On the personal front

I got employed in May in a PMS fund as the head of research (sort of a quasi fund manager) . I am grateful for the opportunity to do something that I wanted to do and get paid for it (a la buffet saying “tap dancing to work”). Having said that , this is a totally different beast as compared to managing your own capital (In market drawdowns while investing your own funds, you just lick your wounds vis a vis managing clients emotions and yours simultaneously :face_with_head_bandage:). Got NISM certifications as an equity analyst and as Fund manager during the year. I am still learning the ropes , the coverage universe has expanded and last few months has been challenging to say the least :hot_face:

I had aspired to eat heathy and follow an exercise routine. While for most part of the year the "eat healthy" went for a toss , I was able to follow the exercise routine . Since the start of December, have started sugar cut and reduced carb intake and increased the workout regimen. One of the aspirations of this coming year is to cut the visceral fat (which I believe is one of the prime suspects of lifestyle ailments) and bring overall body fat % to around 10%. This requires healthy and disciplined food habits and rigorous workout.

The following are the goals and aspirations for 2026

  • Read substantially more
  • Cut Social Media time
  • Chain the mind monkey and be more thoughtful.
  • Show gratitude and pray more often
  • Contribute meaningfully to VP
  • Do deep research on businesses (LLMs are a boon -cuts time to research drastically)
  • Genuine interest in fellow beings
  • Avoid the peripheral and think deeply
  • Love family and express often
  • Develop a selling philosophy and adhere to it.

Before I conclude this long rambling , I would like to thank this forum and fellow investors from the bottom of my heart. I am filled with gratitude and consider everyone here much dearly. The stalwarts of this forum have inspired and enriched me. Most of the stock I ideas have originated from here and I am much thankful for it. Special thanks is due to seniors as well as upcoming stars including but not limited to @phreakv6 @hitesh2710 @Anant @rupeshtatiya @YachnaBhatia @satishwe (special thanks for the admin work+ his prodigious output) @RocketMan @Ghonarbochon @Aloysius_De_Sa @rajpanda . (I would have missed out several outstanding contributors since VP has a restriction of 10 mentions, my sincere apologies).

Wishing all at VP a happy , prosperous, healthy and exciting 2026. Happing hunting …

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Inspired by your growth in a very testing and difficult year. Your musings are greatly valued and looked forward to… Resonate with your last para, may the sun shine brighter on the VP community elders and prolific contributors.

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An article published on substack. Here I discuss about Kaynes Technology India Limited - The EMS giant in making and Cohance life science ( older name Suven Pharma ) ~ Demerged CRAMS Arm of Suven Life Sciences. In fact the prices have gone done from the anchor price discussed here :joy:

FALLING KNIFE OR PHOENIX BIRD

The year was 1963. Tino De Angelis was the undisputed vegetable oil king in the US. He and his establishment: Allied Crude Vegetable Oil refining Company (Allied) was a big player in the Vegetable oil futures market and had cornered the market. They peddled stories of impending crop failure in Russia leading to Russian purchases of US oil and kept pushing the futures prices up. Their positions were backed by vegetable oil stored in containers. AEFW (American Express Field Warehousing Co) had issued warehouse receipts confirming the Oil stored in tanks held by Allied. AEFW was one of the 4 subsidiaries of American Express (AMEX). AMEX was the dominant player in the travel and financial services domain. But oil prices couldn’t be held artificially high for long. With each subsequent oil price decline, Allied needed to provide more money in margin accounts. By November 1963, the exchanges and government commodity agencies finally realized that Allied was driving up futures prices. When a commodities exchange investigator demanded to see Allied’s records, the gig was up. Allied filed for bankruptcy. Futures prices plummeted. AEFW’s warehouse receipts had totaled twice as much vegetable oil as all the oil in the U.S. That’s when all hell broke loose. Allied filed for bankruptcy and when AEFW inspectors went and checked their collateral they found that the tanks were filled with sea water.

AMEX stock tanked in the aftermath. That along with the assassination of JFK ensured the AMEX stock took a royal pounding. Since AEFW was a separately incorporated subsidiary AMEX was not legally bound to take responsibility of the losses incurred by AEFW. But the CEO Mr. Clark, accepted moral responsibility and vowed to do good any of the damages due to the banks and financial system at large. While this statement soothed the nerves of the bankers, the stock market didn’t like the move as the liabilities amounted to almost 1-year revenues of AMEX.

That’s when a fund manager from Omaha, Nebraska one Mr. Warren E Buffet spung into action. Mr. Buffett wondered what impact the scandal would have on Amex’s reputation. With travelers cheques and credit cards, trust mattered. Buffett needed facts. So he and an acquaintance visited restaurants and other places that accepted Amex cards and cheques. They talked to bank tellers, bank officers, credit-card users, hotels employees, and restaurants workers to get a feel for whether usage had fallen off. Based on that research, Buffett concluded that while Wall Street had punished Amex by battering the stock price, Amex’s reputation hadn’t been tarnished on Main Street.

Having got convinced that AMEX is here to stay despite a temporary incident, Buffet committed a substantial sum of $ 3mn amounting to 17% of Buffet Partners Limited total AUM to AMEX stock in 1964 at an average price of $ 41.22 . As he had suspected AMEX was able to manage the fiasco and 2.5 years later AMEX was quoting $ 92.5 at a cool 124% gain.

The reason for narrating this incident is not only because I am a huge fan of Warren Buffet (which I am), but there are interesting parallels in the current Indian market. Since September 2024 we are in a sideways market and even though most of the front line indices have moved to Highs after almost 15 months in Novemeber 2025, there is wide spread pain beneath. The broader markets have been benign and Small and Midcap stocks are getting beaten up left right and center. Some of the darlings of last year have fallen bigtime from their all-time highs and are now available at reasonable valuations.

I plan to discuss 2 such businesses. When I analyze a business one simple mental model I follow is to think if this particular business can double from the current prices in 3 years (circa 26% CAGR). If I can visualize that happening, despite the current headwinds that is suppressing the stock prices then I believe benign prices are a boon to a long-term investor.

Kaynes Technology

CMP: Rs 3875 | Market Cap: Rs 26000 Cr | 52 week high: Rs 7600

Recently Kotak Institutional securities came out with a report mentioning accounting irregularities from their annual report analysis. Management later came out with clarifications in their investor call. While they accepted one inadvertent omission in their standalone notes to accounts pertaining to related party transactions of Iskreameco (Subsidiary acquired by kaynes for Smart Metering business), they were able to give satisfactory clarifications to most of the other allegations.

Despite these clarifications the stock took a pounding and is currently down 50% from their 52-week high. The reason why this temporary blip can be an opportunity to the Intelligent investor is as follows:

1. Kaynes technology is transitioning from an EMS player to a full fledged ESDM player with design and IP capabilities.

2. Kaynes is one of the first and very few companies present in the nascent Semiconductor eco system with its OSAT facility (Outsourced Semiconductor Assembly and Testing) coming up in Gujarat.

3. Kaynes is also setting up a multilayer PCB manufacturing unit in Chennai which is one of the first in India and is an import substitution.

4. Kaynes is growing at a blazing pace & has given an ambitious target of growing 50% per year for the next 2 years.

So, the final question is will they go belly up ?, if not then with so many optionality’s under their belt , the market is bound to reward high growth and once the new capabilities and optionality’s come on board,Kaynes might get valued basis its long-term averages.

Presently at a P/E level Kaynes is trading at its lower band of the 3-year averages. While still P/E of c. 70 might look optically high I believe this must not be viewed in isolation but in line with long term averages and scale of growth.

In conclusion I believe that Kaynes as current levels (c. Rs 4000) presents descent value considering all the business tail winds and optionality.

2. COHANCE LIFE SCIENCES

CMP : Rs 535. | Market Cap: 20,500 cr | P/E: 59.5 | 52 week high : Rs 1276

BRIEF HISTORY

COHANCE Life Sciences is the current form was born out of the merger between Cohance Life sciences and Suven Pharmaceuticals. Suven pharma was the demerged entity to carve out the CDMO business from erst while Suven Life Sciences (Suven Life is still run by old promoter Venkat Jasti and it is focused on Drug discovery). Suven Pharma prior to merger with Cohance has already acquired 2 entities namely Sapala and NJ bio , both having specific capabilities. Cohance was the entity controlled by the PE firm Advent. It was envisioned by Advent as a Pharma platform combining three entities Viz: RA Chem, ZCL Chemicals and AVRA Labs. Now post-merger the combined entity is called Cohance with Advent at the helm.

Advent post-acquisition has brought in top industry talent to run the show. Post merger the combined entity had drop in margins (Suven Life Sciences was known for its industry leading margins of 40%+) since Cohance was lower margin business compared to Suven.

But the Merged Cohance Entity is not small fish. It is one of the few entities that has the capabilities of ADC (Antibody drug Conjugates). ADC therapy is one of the hyper fast-growing therapies worldwide with an expected growth rate of c. 25% CAGR till 2030.

Cohance in addition to ADC also have capabilities in Nucleotides

Nucleotides are the building blocks of DNA and RNA — the molecules that carry genetic information in all living things. In biology, they are essential for:

  • DNA/RNA synthesis

  • Cellular energy transfer

  • Metabolism and signaling (e.g., ATP is a nucleotide)

They are fundamental to genetic therapies, vaccines, molecular diagnostics, and modern biological science.

Despite all these cutting-edge capabilities the stock price has been moving South wards since the merger took shape. Below infographic shows the events that are part of the reason for the sharp correction to the prices.

THESIS

o The market seems to be over reacting to temporary blip due to the merger. Since the merger of 2 large entities take shape (Which in itself is a combination of several big entities in their own right), it normally takes time to settle down and for the synergies to take effect.

o The reasons for slowdown in revenue and drop in margins are due to destocking, funding winter for biotech and timing related shipment deferrals. These are not structural in nature and should turnaround.

o The management has reiterated the vision of clocking 1 bn $ revenue by FY 29 (Current revenue is C. Rs 2500 cr v/s FY 29 plan of Rs 8500 cr).

o The management has guided for flat revenues with higher margins for FY 26. For that to happen H2 FY 26 has to be significantly better than H1 FY 26.

o The combined Cohance + Suven entity is currently trading at the market cap of equal or lesser than Suven Pharma (which had c. 35% of combined entities revenue).

Based on the capabilities and the ambitious growth targets of c. 28% CAGR revenues till FY30 I believe the current price drop is a good opportunity to accumulate the stock for the patient investor. This thesis might take time to fructify as the management has indicated benign growth in the next couple of quarters. But we believe if one has a 3-year view then at the current levels this business should give double in 3 years.

Disclosure: I am invested in Kaynes (CMP below my avg purchase price ) and evaluating Cohance for investment.

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This could be a game changer in the ICE vs EV race