At an even lower level of MoS of 10%, the value is ~Rs. 5700. I wouldn’t mind purchasing Maruti Suzuki at this level too and then averaging down if it goes below that. The company has an excellent and consistent operating history–so much so that there’s probably no need for a Margin of Safety at all. But hey, at this point, it’s a force of habit for me.
The recent auto slowdown is bring touted as 1st time phenomenon. Media making most out of it taking to another level. Below is 12 year monthly YoY growth of PV sales chart at 6 month moving average to make it smooth. As u can see, 1. Happens every few years with poor macro specially during poor macro financial situation 2. Longevity of correction may last from 6 to 24 months 3. Around 14-15% growth for 6-12 months , tops r created 4. Poor financial macro always played around fall. 5. Even the best of businesses could be semi cyclic ,so look to history. Every cycle has new narrative 6. Also, seeing the width and depth of correction, one can interpret about bottom formation
I think we need to factor historical behavior to arrive at normalized growth rate, normalized margins, valuation band at peak of optimism and pessimism and where we are comfortable at and then look into latest developments like EV, Shared mobility and factor in how future could be different from history to make best judgement
Automating a valuation is the worst thing someone can do. Yes, I do fill in the Numbers myself and the assumptions used are personal to me. This is a compact version of the model I’ve discussed here:
If you want more details, feel free to DM me. Let’s not derail this thread with an unrelated conversation.
Maruti is a Auto + EV Battery company. We need to think about them in 2020. If we think 2019, we need to think the value it is providing coming down from 10K to 6K. All the bad news is already in the price of the stock, which is why it is stable.
Bulls and Bears are fighting right now clearly showing that it is not going down even with bad news, and also we already got the ‘super-bear’ saying 3000-4000 price point. Usually, there is always an outside range-view-needed to call the CMP as the bottom.
Of course, nothing in life is certain, and it could go anywhere, but the probablity is clearly showing that CMP is the bottom and SIP buying is the BEST of the BEST approach.
Listening the shudown of plants etc is VERY positive. It is the best way to manage expenses, and not create inventory where the margins will go down. Also, they usually do a shutdown in June and that is coming also.
I would say, Maruti is a leader, new model coming out in Dec, Batteries will be a huge leverage, and of course, non-Indian buyers are still buying. Now, that election is over, and Rate Reduction is being talked about, this will really help. Aug to Nov will start to become a bullish timeframe from Maruti.
Share price prediction seems like a futile attempt as nobody can predict the multiples. Also the prebuying may not happen. Diesel growth rate may also be negative.
If you see current offers for commercial inventory, Uber and Maruti are giving special incentives for buying petrol (CNG/LPG) cars this month. Alto for example gets 60k cash back in 3 months.
Disclosure: I hold Maruti in my core portfolio and forms a very big %.
Leave aside share price, the main thing which I wanted to drive was, even if MSIL converts 80-90% of its diesel customer to petrol in FY21 still it can only touch sales levels which are at par with FY20 (if the growth rate is what I have assumed).
Also, Uber+Maruti petrol offer won’t affect diesel sales as Uber has either CNG (buy petrol & put a kit) or diesel vehicles, where CNG is available people invariably choose petrol/CNG. And currently Uber Cities + Good CNG network overlap is only in Mumbai & Delhi
Mind explaining how you arrived at growth rate of petrol and diesel car sales to be 4% and 10% respectively?
This looks quite stretched looking at the current slowdown.
I’m personally expecting a de-growth of 10+% for FY20 on the number of car sales. Important to note that there is slowdown in many sectors and not just Auto.
De-growth in car sales might lead to de-growth in margins too due to operating leverage. And if both revenues and margins are going down, it can lead to de-rating of the stock too.
We can already see that margins have fallen in FY19 and so did PE Ratio of the stock.
Disclosure: It is an excellent company but doesn’t look like a good time / price to enter. I’m quite bearish on the stock for the next one or two years. Not a buy / sell recommendation. Just presenting personal views. Not a SEBI registered analyst.
MSIL has given volume growth guidance of 4-8% for FY20 in their concall for Q4 FY19 concall . With these growth for petrol and diesel total growth rate comes out to be 5.3%. (Remember that in FY19, industry grew by 2.7% & MSIL ~6%)
The calculation is done to show the upper cap, even at FY20 PE of 24 with all these sales the stock’s current price is expensive
So 6500-7500 is the most optimistic price range for MSIL for FY20 is what you can say
This is from SIAM website. So in the past 6 years total passenger vehicles sold is around 1.76 crores and total 2 wheelers sold is around 10.62 crores. Assuming around 25 crores household in india and those who will have income to afford cars in india will probably we around 5 crore (or throw some other figure) I think lot of household have a car. With pathetic condition of roads, accidents, parking, urban mobility … growth in AUTO may be slow and unlike witnessed in earlier decade.