Sumit's Portfolio

Transteel’s main competition comes from

  1. Big brands like Godrej Interio and Featherlite
  2. The unorganized sector

Here’s how I think (based on my limited understanding) it differentiates itself:

Turnkey Solutions Approach: Unlike many of its competitors, Transteel offers a complete turnkey solution for office furniture, from design and manufacturing to delivery and installation. This end-to-end service simplifies the buying process for clients, reduces the hassle of coordinating with multiple vendors, and ensures consistency in quality and execution.

Digital Channel Leverage: Transteel effectively uses digital channels and direct sales to reach customers, making it more agile and responsive compared to traditional players that rely on brick-and-mortar stores. This also helps in keeping costs low and passing on the benefits to clients.

Quality and Reliability: Against the unorganized sector, Transteel’s turnkey model ensures higher quality and reliability, backed by strong after-sales support and sustainability practices that unorganized players often lack.

However, I may be wrong and haven’t developed full conviction in the story yet.

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Hey Sumit,

Could you elaborate your bit on your investment thesis for Anand Rathi? The past few years, India has seen an ever growing number of people investing in the stock market, either directly or through MFs. MF companies, brokers and wealth management companies have benefited greatly from this and the same is reflected in their share price as well. So what’s sets Anand Rathi apart? Also is there justification for its sky high valuation compared to peers right now?

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Sure, I’d be happy to share my thoughts on Anand Rathi Wealth Limited (ARWL).

When it comes to wealth management, especially in the HNI (High Net Worth Individual) segment, trust is the ultimate differentiator. Unlike other sectors, building trust or a strong client relationship in wealth management takes years. And once you have that trust, it becomes a powerful competitive advantage. The wealth management business itself also has several inherent strengths compared to brokerages or other financial players.

1. Scalable and Asset-Light: First off, wealth management is a highly scalable and asset-light business. You don’t need heavy capital investment to grow, unlike traditional financial services like lending. This means they can expand rapidly without significant additional costs.

2. High Return Ratios: It typically delivers high returns on capital employed (ROCE) and return on equity (ROE). This is because wealth management firms generally have lower fixed costs and, with the right strategy, can achieve significant revenue growth without a proportional increase in expenses.

3. Less Volatile Compared to Brokerages and AMCs: Wealth management is also less volatile compared to brokerages and asset management companies (AMCs). Brokerages are directly exposed to the stock market’s ups and downs, which can make their earnings quite choppy. On the other hand, a big chunk of wealth managers’ AUM (Assets Under Management) is in debt instruments, which tend to be more stable. This means their AUMs don’t swing as wildly with market movements.

4. Multiple Growth Drivers: The success in wealth management comes from a few key growth drivers. First, AUMs naturally grow with market returns. Second, satisfied clients tend to give more of their wallet share, refer friends and family, and build a positive reputation for the firm. Third, as new Relationship Managers (RMs) join, they bring in their client base. All these factors together create a ‘lollapalooza’ effect — a compound growth driven by multiple forces working in tandem.

5. High Entry Barriers: Another point is the significant entry barriers in this space. Unlike lending, where people receive money, wealth management requires people to trust you with their hard-earned capital. That level of trust doesn’t come easy; it takes years to build and is incredibly hard for new players to replicate. Anand Rathi has established itself as a highly trustworthy name in this space, which is a significant competitive moat.

6. Untapped Potential in the Wealth Management Sector: We’re still just scratching the surface in wealth management in India. A large portion of the country’s wealth is held by HNIs and Ultra-HNIs (UHNIs), and this group is growing rapidly. Plus, these individuals are starting to realize that the best returns often come from financial assets rather than traditional assets like gold or real estate. So, there’s a huge market opportunity waiting to be tapped.

On the Valuation Front: Yes, the valuation may seem high right now, but given the growth potential, the asset-light model, the high ROCE, and the significant moat around its business, Anand Rathi falls into the category of those rare companies like Asian Paints, HUL, and Nestle when they were smaller. These businesses looked expensive at one point, but their strong fundamentals and growth trajectory made them great investments over time.

So, while it might look pricey today, the fundamentals suggest it could be a great long-term bet.

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Warren Buffett has famously categorized businesses into three types: Great, Good, and Gruesome. Great businesses require little to no capital to grow (asset-light) and generate consistently high returns on capital while maintaining a durable competitive advantage. Good businesses deliver reasonable returns on capital but demand ongoing capital investment to fuel their growth. Gruesome businesses, on the other hand, are capital-intensive and produce poor returns on capital.

In this framework, Anand Rathi Wealth Limited stands out as a Great business. It operates with an asset-light model, demonstrates a high return on capital, and benefits from a robust competitive edge in the wealth management industry.

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I am curious about Transteel as well.

My trouble with this company is that its difficult to track how well are they growing. The last order notification was of June 5th.

The Space as a service sector is booming and that makes me feel that Transteel will benefit. But i can’t exactly figure out if that is actually going to be the case or not. Good thing is that they are out of hyderabad and Hyderabad is has a huge commercial space under development.

Regarding end to end service: It is not an uncommon service. Most of the players provide this.

Google maps review are bad: Google Maps (blr), https://www.google.com/maps/place/Transteel+Seating+Technologies+Limited+Company/@13.0724212,80.253404,17z/data=!4m8!3m7!1s0x3a5266152d17efbd:0x4218ff1a5fb9d938!8m2!3d13.0724212!4d80.253404!9m1!1b1!16s%2Fg%2F1tg_dgp3?authuser=4&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (chennai)

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Thanks Sumit for elucidating your thesis on Anand Rathi. I had guessed that trust would be a factor as people do not give their money to people they do not trust. However, the asset light model and the dependency of other financial companies on debt or the stock market was news to me

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Hey, thanks for sharing this. I didn’t know end-to-end is a common approach. Their Google reviews are indeed bad. As far as I know their promoter is based out of Bangalore. I stay in Bangalore, and intend to soon meet the promoter.

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Just thinking loud, assumuning an hni need to visit office to talk face to face to chose his wealth manager and assess the quality of operations…he goes to MG road and see two offices side by side, one is Anand Rathi wealth and other is HDFC Wealth (assuming they carve it out) and on next turn is SBI Wealth next to Tata Wealth …which one would he first chose to assess and have faith?

Digitally as well, whom would he chose assuming marketing, branding etc is all equal.

Agree, great businesses would be asset light and high returns but they must not depend excessively on people decision & perception

Lastly with many people coming to direct equity investment, they would soon be managing their money themselves…

Somehow the moat for wealth business seems a lot people dependent…on the hni people perception and in the person managing wealth and his connections … With many public/mutual fundsand smallcases generating matching returns, who actually needs a seperate wealth manager?

Thoughts welcome

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I doubt anybody would hand off their hard earned money to anybody after 2 seconds of thought. An HNI wouldn’t just randomly decide the wealth manager while walking down some lane. He would either have had his mind made up to go with larger and more “trusted” manager like HDFC.
Or they would have done some research around what all options are there, brand, past performance, fee model, knowing the manager directly etc.

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That would be great.

What is surprising to me is the fact that ALL of the centres have very negative google maps review and despite that there are people who are buying from them and leaving 1 star rating.
I am thinking we should also consider other listed company in this space. Just a thought.

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When it comes to wealth management, HNIs are looking for more than just a big name—they need someone who truly understands their unique financial needs. Most HNIs don’t have the time or expertise to manage their wealth because they’re busy running their businesses or focusing on their careers. Their main goal isn’t just to grow their wealth but to preserve it with as little risk as possible.

That’s where Anand Rathi Wealth really shines. They specialize in working with HNIs, offering personalized services that go beyond just picking investments. Whether it’s estate planning, tax optimization, or risk management, they cover all the bases. Their relationship managers aren’t just advisors; they’re trusted partners who really get to know their clients and manage their wealth with care and transparency.

HNIs are highly influenced by referrals when choosing a wealth manager. They often rely on recommendations from other HNIs in their network, which makes having satisfied clients absolutely crucial. Anand Rathi Wealth has built a strong reputation among its clients, which is a powerful advantage in this business.

Sure, some HNIs might dabble in direct investments or mutual funds, but the comprehensive and personalized approach that Anand Rathi Wealth offers is hard to beat.

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As far as the risks go, yes this business is highly dependent of client-RM relationship. Hence RM attrition is a key monitorable in this business and Anand Rathi has one of the lowest RM attrition in the industry.

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Would like to get some insights after you meet the promoter. I know they also have an experience centre and you can buy from their manufacturing center in Yashwantpur. Your info from the visit will be helpful.

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Portfolio Update –

Decided to exit Transteel after much deliberation. Despite good growth and rerating prospects, I wasn’t able to build conviction in this company. Here are my rationale for the decision –

  1. Negative cashflow : Despite reporting profits, the compay has consistently shown negative free cash flow in recent years. This means the company is spending more cash than it’s generating, which could indicate potential liquidity issues. For example, in the fiscal year ending in March 2024, the company reported a net profit of ₹111.1 million but had a negative free cash flow of ₹422 million​ (Simply Wall St).

  2. High Accrual Ratio: The company’s accrual ratio is quite high (0.66 for the year ending March 2024), which is generally considered a negative sign for future profitability. A high accrual ratio can suggest that the profits reported might not be sustainable​(Simply Wall St).

  3. Legal Proceedings and Regulatory Delays: Transteel Seating and its promoters are currently involved in ongoing legal proceedings. Additionally, there have been certain delays in submitting returns to various government authorities. These issues could lead to financial penalties or other regulatory actions, which might impact the company’s operations and reputation​(FinoWings).

  4. Lack of sufficient differentiation : I couldn’t find any significant differentiation in its business model indicating there could be margin pressure as it tries to scale its operations.

  5. Poor customer reviews : As pointed earlier in the thread, the customers seem to be dissatisfied with its products and service.

  6. Poor employee reviews : A cursory look at sites says that employees are unhappy in the company as well. (Ambitionbox).

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Hey Sumit,
Hope you’re doing well!
Its really inspiring about your journey into full-time investing. You mentioned starting an e-commerce business back in 2014 that sold print merchandise to the U.S. market. I’d love to hear more about that business. if possible, can u explain the business model, customers, marketing methods you used etc. basically I’m asking an entrepreneurship crash course from ur decadal business experience.
Thanks.

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Here’s a podcast I recorded detailing my journey as an entrepreneur. Hope it helps.

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Man, so many actionable insights. I love how every time u refer as us (hum) rather than (mein) which I have seen in a lot of businessmen/ founders. Would love to be in ur network in the future when i will do something worthwhile. Thanks for sharing.

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Portfolio Update: Initiated a Position in Yatharth Hospital

I wanted to share a portfolio update. After recently exiting Transteel, I’ve initiated a small position in Yatharth Hospital, which now accounts for 1.2% of my total portfolio.

Why Yatharth Hospital?

Yatharth Hospital is an emerging player in the healthcare sector, primarily serving the Delhi-NCR region. Here’s why I decided to take a position:

  1. Financial Performance: Yatharth has delivered solid financial growth, with a 37% YoY increase in revenue and a 60% rise in profit in Q1 FY25. While these numbers are promising, it remains to be seen if the company can maintain this trajectory as it scales.
  2. Expansion Plans: The company is expanding aggressively, recently adding a 200-bed hospital in Faridabad, with plans to reach nearly 3,000 beds by FY28. This expansion could drive significant growth, but it also brings execution risks, particularly in managing new facilities effectively.
  3. Operational Metrics: Yatharth has shown improvements in key metrics like occupancy rates, now at 61%, and ARPOB, which has increased by 9% YoY. These are positive signs, but sustaining these improvements, especially during rapid expansion, could be a challenge.
  4. Medical Tourism Potential: Yatharth is well-positioned to benefit from India’s growing medical tourism market. With facilities close to major international airports and competitive pricing for high-quality care, they could attract a significant number of international patients.
  5. Valuation: Yatharth’s valuation appears reasonable compared to other hospitals in the sector. There’s potential for rerating if they can continue delivering strong results, but this hinges on their ability to manage growth and maintain profitability.

Risks to Consider: While Yatharth’s growth story is compelling, it’s not without risks. The healthcare sector is competitive, and rapid expansion could strain the company’s resources. Additionally, the success of their medical tourism strategy and the ability to manage regulatory changes will be key factors to watch.

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With separate wealth management business for e.g. Anand Rathi, they can recommend product from all of market and work with the investor about how aggressive they want their investments. So, Wealth manager experience plays a big role.

Whereas, trusted brands e.g. HDFC/SBI - may prefer to select their own AMC.

So, it is important to be an independent/market agnostic wealth manager.

I am also interested in investing this space, however I am unable to understand the competitions from PMS players. Many of the PMS players/AIF firms are offering similar services - however their track records/returns need to be watched carefully.

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Great insights from your investment journey. Really inspiring with clear cut thought process at this young age.

I have two questions related to your investment philosophy.

  1. Do you follow technical analysis for entering or exiting a stock after detailed fundamental analysis.

  2. As we have so many investing opportunities, how can you filter out from this lot. Do you have any circle of competence? Do you pick out the companies from the existing latest trending theme?

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