IDFC First Bank Limited - First Bank Preference for Long Term Investors too?

Its PCR is lowest amongst the leading banks. Industry average is 76-78 vs 72

So, it makes sense for them to use big chunks of quarterly profits for provisions. With MFI stress, they kinda hit the pedal to the metal in last three quarters.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/compare-pcr-for-leading-banks-4divrx_TT2GtPenyDe5Lcg

“IDFC First Bank’s CAR at 16.3% places it above the regulatory floor and close to peers like Axis and IndusInd, despite higher retail risk weights”

It appears, PCR is a priority, with added tax benefit, whereas CAR is comfortable after recent dilution.

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  1. I asked Perplexity to “get your facts right” (it is of course limited by the quality of inputs it gets) - here is what it says - Perplexity admits inaccuracies

  2. What matters in CAR is CET 1 (which is shareholders’ equity) and not Tier 2. Here is how various banks compare at Sept 30, 2025

The inadequacy of CET 1 of IDFC First in comparison to other banks is quite clear - leading to the biggest fund raise at the lowest cost of Rs 60 / share; lower than the July 2024 fund raise at Rs 80.63 per share - a discount of 25%.

  1. This decline in CET 1 is on account of aggressive growth in Loans and Advances (L&A) but not in profits. This is despite a 04 July 24 fund raise boosting CET 1 to 14.67%

You may see that CET1 declines rapidly because IDFC First boosts loan growth even with deteriorating profits

  1. Management will ofcourse bring future fund raises to current CET1 and say it’s so nice; like it did in July 2024 when it raised Rs 3,200 cr (snip below)

But CET1 deteriorated rapidly from that 14.67% to a dangerous 12.27% in less than 15 months!

  1. To understand how aggressive L&A but tepid profits affects CET1 look at the table below

This necessitates fund raise, which IDFC First has been doing again and again.

  1. So what will happen if IDFC First grows its Loan Book by say 20% annually here on? The Loan Book will grow by ~ Rs 53,000 crores (and so will RWA mostly). To maintain its CET 1 ratio at 14.75%; the bank needs CET incremental capital at 14.75% of 53,000 crores = Rs 7,817 crores next year. Can the bank generate these kinds of after tax profits? If not, then either the loan growth will have to shrink, CET 1 will come down, or existing shareholders face the prospect of further dilution!

To sum: Banks raising equity capital without appropriate profits, just to fund loan growth is bad for minority shareholders

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I have read your posts several times, and I agree.

True, either growth slows or else a capital raise.

growth won’t slow, I feel.
A lot is at stake. Bank needs to trim down CI ratio. They are on a timeline.

But, profits could accumulate.
With MFI issue behind us, half of 7500 Crs in next 4 quarters seems possible. Hence, delaying another round of equity dilution.

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Good to see we are on the same page in this aspect. Let’s see how this pans out.

I would be very surprised if they can make Rs 7,500 cr or even thereabouts in the next year until Sept 26; but then I could be wrong too. Let’s see!

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While raising capital of 7500 Cr, VV had mentioned that they will come to the market in another 2 years for capital again, but it was very subtle..Until ROE reaches 15% at least, expect this cycle to continue for few more years..

There is no doubt that the bank would start considering additional CET1 by end of FY 27 or thereabouts, depending on how much net profit it makes in next 6 quarters. If the profits are decent in this period then the equity raise would get pushed forward.

If things go well and there are no further hiccups it will push up the share price, then the bank would be able to get a good price thus reducing the dilution. We can hold and watch for six quarters. It is not a recommendation.

Invested since merger.

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IDFC First Bank has become a FOMO investment for many, including myself largely because of the trust investors have in Mr. V. Vaidyanathan’s past track record.

After doing my own analysis as a relatively new investor, I noticed both pros and cons worth highlighting.

Pros & Positives

1.GNPA < CAR and GNPA < NIM
The bank has consistently maintained this.
However, CAR has been declining for 3–4 years and is being propped up via capital raising.
But NIM improvement depends heavily on the cost of funds, which hasn’t reduced yet.

2. CASA Growth
CASA growth remains strong, a good sign.
A growing CASA base supports cross-selling and higher fee income, which is currently ~14%. I expect this could touch ~18% in the coming years.

3. Concentration Risk
Top 20 advances, depositors, and exposures look well-distributed.

4. Divergence
No divergence reported since 2019, a healthy indicator.

5. Yield on Advances
Currently around 15%, which is good. It would be even better if it moves toward 18%.

Mixed Bag – Areas to Watch

1. Secured vs Unsecured Lending
The bank’s secured lending ratio has been 50–60% for the past 5–6 years.
While some reports and rating agencies show 70–80%, the Annual Report (Schedule 9 – Advances) indicates otherwise.
A higher share of unsecured loans can:

  • Make NIMs volatile
  • Pressure CAR
  • Limit aggressive future lending

So, while risk management is often praised, the real mix deserves a closer look.

2. Loan-to-Deposit (LTD) Ratio >100% since 2023
This should raise eyebrows, as it can signal tighter liquidity and reliance on borrowings.

3. Provision Coverage Ratio (PCR)
Was below 70% historically; now around 72% (FY25).
It would be more comforting to see this consistently above 75%.

4. Cost-to-Income Ratio
Persistently high at 70%+.
Despite guidance to bring it below 65% by FY25, it hasn’t materialized yet.
Concall explanations have been unconvincing so far.

5. Contingent Liabilities
Consistently over 100% of total assets, making the balance sheet riskier.
Also, since 2023, there’s a ~50 bps difference between ROA and Return on Risk-Weighted Assets worth monitoring.

6. Financial Leverage
Historically above 9x, now at 8.21x.
Would be healthier if the bank sustains growth with leverage between 7–8x.

Other Metrics

  • Slippage Ratio: Improved from ~3% (FY23) to 1.85% now. Aiming below 2%/1.8% would be ideal.
  • Credit Cost: ~2%, I am okay as this is a young & growing bank(at snail’s pace).
  • Employee Turnover: Manageable; not a major concern for me yet.
  • ROA: Only crossed 1.1% in FY23–FY24. Only a sustained ROA >1.1% for a few quarters in the future will make the market to assign >2x book valuation. Else it gonna trade 1.2x to 1.5x for many weeks.
  • ROE: Naturally tied to ROA; leverage is in line.
  • Dividend: Surprising, given the capital needs reinvestment might have been better.

Valuations & Outlook

  • Book Value per Share: ₹54.20
  • Given the current risks and the bank’s early growth phase, I assign a fair multiple of 1.1–1.2x Book Value.
  • Until the bank demonstrates sustained NIM, CAR, and cost control improvements, I expect it to trade between 1.1x–1.5x book.
  • Once it crosses 1.5x, many long-term investors (considering opportunity cost) might start booking profits.

Disc: I entered due to FOMO and have held it for ~1.5 years now, initially a small tracking position, now around 5% of my portfolio after averaging near book value.

I’ll reassess after the next few quarters’ results with a deeper dive into capital adequacy, unsecured lending trends, and cost-to-income metrics.

This is just my understanding, open to corrections or additional insights from others.

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VV sold 6,36,00 shares from his trust last week. Anyone knows the reasons? No news in media.

Rukmani Social Welfare Trust has disposed 6,00,000 equity shares of IDFC FIRST Bank Limited to support social activities. It is submitted as part of these disclosures, that there are no direct or indirect benefits derived by Mr. V. Vaidyanathan from these transactions.

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At 48 PE is the stock expensive?
In 2024 EPS was 4.16 for the whole year.
going forward two years, assuming a 20% growth, EPS = 6, hence PE of 13!

It can go 2x before the price falters.

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around 18% is reasonable to assume, considering:

a. They intend to improve PCR, bringing it at par.
b. margin contraction due to rate cuts
c. obvious traction in the economy.

BV(standalone) has risen about 11% over the last 10Q, and the stock has traded at an average of ~1.5x its BV during this period.

If we project a similar trend on a conservative basis for the next 10 quarters (i.e., up to Q4FY28), the BV could reach around ~73 to 75. Assuming the stock trades at 2x BV, the share price could hover around 140-150. roughly 80% upside. Lucrative enough to stay put.

In nutshell, Banking is a business of earning principal + interest it’s a game of protecting the downside rather than chasing the upside.

The sector often delivers more negative surprises than positive ones, and the real winners are the banks that excel in risk management and cost control consistently.

Only time will tell whether IDFC First Bank can continue on that disciplined path and prove itself in the long run.

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I think that in the stock market, we should not predict the future based on past performance. Instead, we should analyze a company’s projections and future developments to make future predictions.

If the book value has increased by 11% in the last 10 quarters, it doesn’t mean it will be the same for the next 10 quarters.

If it worked that way, then we could simply buy the stocks that have gone up 50 times in the last five years and expect them to give the same performance in the next five years — but that’s not how it happens.

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I absolutely agree with this point. One should look at the company’s future growth prospects.

I didn’t say/mean it will be the same for the next 10Q. I clearly mentioned projecting on a conservative basis, factoring in any negative surprises. Still, the upside looks lucrative.

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IDFC first is a so called multibagger for last 10 years, actually its a multi begger, from 70 to 80 in ten years. This is called holding bias. I know this message will be flagged by a boarder who is spreading gyan on this board for last 6-7 years but truth is truth and its bitter. I have learned this lesson hard after losing fortune in yes bank where whole gains and capital wiped out. Banking is a commodity business and its a crowd including SFB, Fintech ready to loan. Investing in a bank is a fearful investing.

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This is the most bearish perspective I have come across, 2x not 3x. And, rightly so, the management did their karma, rest is left to the forces of nature.

They have achieved, Casa, branches, reduction in high cost legacy loans, credit cards. Their karma.

As a result, Opex and RoA will fall in line in its due time.

  • MFI crisis was not in their hands, but they managed it.
  • Nims took a hit due to rate cuts and lesser MFI.
  • Dilution they have to do. Not like they have a choice.

Recently price massively rallied from 53 to 83. A rise of 50% which no other bank has done.

Sure, the banking industry is a tough one. Unforgiving and saturated, unlike when hdfc or icici started.

So, I don’t have 3x or 5x expectations. But, I do believe the current valuation is still low. Price will happily keep rallying 25% CaGR for the next 10 years. Ofc, with plenty of volatility along the way. This industry is such.

Well said. No point discussing the status in 2015. Even now sub 60 levels are super.

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Many people say that IDFC FIRST Bank has only moved from 70 to 80 in the last 10 years… Some people say it was supposed to become the next HDFC Bank — so what happened? Why didn’t IDFC FIRST Bank become a multibagger in all these years?

According to me, IDFC FIRST Bank should be evaluated after the merger, from the time when VV took charge of the leadership. Hasn’t CASA and CASA% seen a multifold jump? Hasn’t the retail loan book also grown multifold?

Overall, the business of IDFC FIRST Bank has grown significantly. Sooner or later, the remaining parameters will also show similar jumps. Pick any large bank — its initial journey has always looked like this. So what do we expect from IDFC FIRST Bank? That it will reach here without facing any challenges?

We usually judge a multibagger only by looking at the share price. But if we look at the business, many parameters have grown multifold in the last 6 years. Hopefully, if the bank manages to control interest expense, operating expenses, and provisions well, then this bank will get re-rated — and not just 2x or 3x, it has the capacity to become a multi-x bank in the long term.

Everyone should invest according to their own risk profile.

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IMHO banking is going through a major transformation. Getting deposits will be difficult than it was in the past. Freebies given with accounts like reward points, atm usage will go away. They may start charging for depositing or withdrawing cash. Reducing transaction costs will be critical for their survival. Technology will play a major role in that. Physical contacts will be at a premium. So this is just the beginning of things to come.

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Ramanathan_Narasimha :

Yes, your observations look correct to me.

Probably, we need to look at Banking businesses in USA, UK and Europe to get some idea about future trends in Indian banking industry. In developed nations, current account and savings account interest rates were generally negligible in late 1990(s) and Now Indian banks are also moving in that direction. Retail investors in those developed nations have been investing in shares, mutual funds - equity and debt since 1990(s) and 2000(s) and Now that seems to be happening in India.

Most likely we may not get more than 1.0% to 1.5% interest on Savings account in next few years.

Also, Banks might start offering more Flexible FD / RD products and allow you to invest flexibly in RD as & when required like Mutual Funds. This might help them to retain few customers who need such flexibility.

We may see increase in penalty for breaking FD earlier than its tenure.

More innovations might be required to attract and retain younger customers. Also there could be rise in Fee(s) on various products to retain and increase their Fee based income. We may see substantial increase in ATM, Debit/Credit Card Fees, Cash Withdrawal Fees, Loan Processing Fees going forward over next decade.

This may or may not happen but there would be many such transformations going forward.

Note : This is not applicable to IDFC FIRST BANK but my general observations about Banking business model.

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