Superb results. Last 12 months profits at Rs 214crs. At current market cap 3556crs stock trades at a cheap 16.6x P/E
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Few concerns from the investor presentation:
- Rental segment - The billed seats / Total seats ratio has decline YoY which is not a good sign, looks like company doesnât have good visibility on occupancy and is being conservative.
- They had committed a target of 92k seats by FY26 and then walked it back to ~78-80k and not if they want to reach that target, they need to develop their highest seat quarterly seat addition in q4
- Instead of a steady, predictable and low working capital cycle rental business, the growth is majorly coming from design and build and small extent from furniture business both of which will dilute the margin and are working capital heavy businesses
- Furniture segment - Current capacity utilization is still low compared to earlier claims of 200 Cr yearly sales and 250-300 cr peak utilization and with rental segmentâs slow growth, the backward integration is slow
- Company has started to acquire properties on its own book which is a good idea if they can get properties at a low rate but it exposes them to downturn risk somewhere down the line which must be adjusted in the valuation multiple
Other concerns:
- Company uses it own depreciation policy instead of standard ind-as one which is dissimilar ahd higher than Awfis and DevX. This inflates profit to some extent
- Management integrity - The subsidiary deals are a red flag and no explanation seems justifiable. They incorporated a subsidiary with a lot of management stake separately in a listed company and funded it with capital / loans from listed company without any risk to promoter. When the company started working, they merged it and got a boatload of money
- Brokerage fees to related parties - They are paying a lot of brokerage fees to a subsidiary of TCC Concepts which is a material %age of TCCâs revenue.
- Pepperfry deal - They acquired Pepperfry in Oct at 659 Cr but now raising money 4 months later at 1600 Cr from Sageone, etc. How is that possible? Probably a lot of losses being absorbed in TCC, preference shares to clean up the business and TCC shareholders getting hosed (this is a hunch). Exclusive: Pepperfry to raise $18 Mn funding in down round
The only good thing is the valuations which seem to price in a lot of these risks it seems.
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Disc - Not yet invested and not yet biased
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People are exaggerating fear of AI instead of taking as force for development.
Following articles gives better idea, especially, how India will get benefited from recent FTA/AI deals. Companies in the managed office space Q3FY26 result is proof of the momentum in office demand. In con call of all managed office space companies are bullish on demand and there is no sign of slowdown.
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what are the members thoughts on the AI effect on the reduction in white collar jobs and also on co-working companies ?
Acc to management this will motivate the tech companies to rent more seats instead of doing own capex .
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I have very similar opinion. GCCâs would continue to boom as AI advances would be used to replace high cost labour in the developed countries to get the maximum benefit of AI. Whatever minimum manpower requirements would be there, those would be fulfilled through the GCCâs of these global organisations.
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Whatâs going on with the stock price? So much selling with so low volume. If ace investors liked it at 290 then itâs cheap at 184
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They are planning for a QIP. During such difficult times, they have no consideration for shareholder value, whereas there was no indication of a QIP earlier.
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Diluting at this low price is big blow for retail shareholders. They claim that they have good cash flow from flex office business and it can fund other vertical growth, but now will raise fund by diluting at this price. This is another blow to shareholders after the last merger by allocating huge equity to promoters.
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No idea what they are thinking here honestly. Can rationalise a lot of things but diluting at 52 week lows is nonsensical. I understand that price has not been decided yet, but I donât want a company that always raises cash!
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for a company wanting to grow 50-60% but with 20-25% roce how do u propose for them to grow if not raise funds?
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Do a rights issue and let retail investors as well as the promoters participate. I am sure Sageone is participating in this QIP as I saw a recent interview by Sameer talking about undervaluation in this space. Sageone is also invested in TCC Concepts and in Pepperfry aside from TCC.
These dealings are somehow giving me an uneasy feeling about Sageone and its relationship with the promoters.
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Which recent interview you are talking about? Please share the link. Apart from EFC and TCC, Sageone also invested in Synthiko Foils Ltd share price | About Synthiko Foils | Key Insights - Screener where Umesh Sahay is a promoter.
How management is able to give bandwidth to EFC , given lot of work going on in TCC (pepperfry ,Data centre, software) and also in synthiko (BESS , Data Centre EPC) .Why they are obssessed with opening new companies rather they could start some of those verticals in EFC itself . Similar things they have done during whitehills by starting it as a ~50% promoter owned subsidy and then minting 1000 crores worth of equity of EFC . And now raising the QIP at these throwaway prices.
However good EFC looks to be , one thing which is clear is Managment seems to be very minority unfriendly .
On bright side managment has not diluted anything ,TIER 1 customers giving stability and visiblity with inflation pricing inbuilt in revenues and also manhar has done lot of ground checks.
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New notification confirms its not QIP but a rights issue. Eligible shareholder will have a right to participate at these throw away prices if they want to.
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Do you understand what a ârights issueâ mean??
I too donât trust the management, but I also donât understand the rationality of people here.
Letâs say, If the company really wants money, how would promoter buying from open market give money to company? Itâs just a transaction between promoter and secondary market.. company will not get fund in that case.
Earlier, people were calling raising QIP at these low prices unethical, now the same is encouraged vs the warrants. I mean if it really turns out to be a ârights issueâ ideally it will allow all shareholders to participate and on the same terms so it is always better than qip or warrants.
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Rights Price: The issue is priced at âš150 per share.
Shareholders will receive 8 Rights Equity Shares for every 103 shares held as of the record date.
Is it advisable to participate in the rights issue? Or does the price will come below 150. after the additional shares are issued and then can be purchased from the open market itself?
Does anyone have any previous experience of participating in the rights issue?If yes, please share like what usually happens after the additional shares are issued, does the share price goes below the issue price?
EFC-rights-issue.pdf (3.0 MB)
Past experience suggests that share price should remain above 150 and there withh be premium on RE.
