Yes bank


(mrai74) #971

(rkothuri) #976

Recently they gave sell call on RBL as well. Every other institute has a buy call on same. Not sure the intentions of Kotak.


(AKGupta) #978

Most of the reporting is factual. Only some is opinion/editorial. UBS had a sell call on Yes Bank for so long. Did it have an impact on the stock? No! It was only after fundamental issues came to light that people dumped the shares. Only when those fundamentals improve will the stock recover. Meanwhile RK should think like another RK (Rajesh Khanna) did…“Kuch toh newswaale kahenge…unka kaam hai kehnaa…” and keep on doing his work :wink::blush:


(Varun) #981

Kotak securities gave a sell call.

Well if we say that their intentions is bad, any broking house backed by a bank should stop giving calls on peers? Shall, ICICI Securities stop commenting or covering other banks? If they downgrade some bank or upgrade some other, does it mean they want to buy out the bank which they degraded? What about foreign institutional desks? If they downgrade say ICICI Sec… does it mean they want to buy them???

Its a lot of rumor mongering and blame game being played out.

Regarding Yes Bank, there is something that RBI knows and we do not know. Last time when some news paper reported this:

" Yes Bank spokespersons Krunal Mehta and Amit Shah, replying to Mint’s queries, said: “At the very outset, we would like to clarify that any communication exchanges between the bank and its regulator (RBI) are secret, confidential and privileged. Any illegal, unauthorized and improper dissemination of the contents from unofficial sources would force us to take appropriate legal proceedings against you, both under civil and criminal laws.

We therefore fail to understand why your publication is trying to sensationalize and resurface an old story."
"

They threatened Mint of legal action. In past, they threatened UBS for same. I mean is it only business standard which is giving these reports?

There is only one way to put rest to these rumors… tell investors what are the specific issues RBI mentioned which led to exit of RK. Instead of giving answers, they are just playing a blame game and trying to hide the real reasons…


(aerofire) #982

Yes has become NO :grinning:


(Vasu_Rana) #983

Media says " Multiple Sources " and kotak denied the news - share price is still up 8.5% - I think they are diverting yes bank news to kotak - somehow the whole media houses favorable to specific stocks - Did Berkshire Hathway invest in overvalued compines in past on listed space ? News seems to be fake news and know days media like a local WhatsApp groups - broadcast or publish whatever they hear or like or favour Todo ? May be I start to believe what Yes bank told few days back - " Media is favourable to specific entities " .


(Vasu_Rana) #984

Here transcript of Ajay Srivastava , Dimension consulting on ET - I personally follow his interviews and set his name on Google alerts -


Would that mean that you would say yes to a Yes Bank at these levels?

I already hold it. So I have already said yes to it. It is a great franchise. It will be sold and eventually it will be merged and even if you get a decent two time, two and a half times book value, you would have made a decent pile of money.

I think you are in the game in there. It is a good bank. It has got result. Nobody said results were wrong. It has got its own set of issues which they will sort out and eventually it is a clear case of merger. It will get merged somewhere. It is just a matter of time. You punt on it and live with it.
We hold it and we believe it is going to be a good buy because nobody is saying that the bank is a sham at the end of it.

Are you buying Yes Bank at Rs 168? You hold Yes Bank but I would imagine that your purchase price was much higher.

We have been purchasing for a long time. I do not know whether this week my people have bought or not. But if it gets any lower, if we are about Rs 150 or so, would you buy add your position? My answer is yes unless there is a catastrophic event. Again it is not answer that in case of the worst case scenario like a big fraud in the bank, would we buy it? Answer in that case is perhaps no.

I keep guarding myself in saying that because a long time back there was this one bank. The press conference was going on and somebody was on the stage and I would have bought this bank at any point of time. But by the time the conference ended, the stock was zero. So, I am not sure. I think Yes Bank is a reasonable buy at this price unless a frightful surprise comes out.


(Karanops) #985

I am not very knowledgeable but yes bank story and banks reasons seems unjust, to a layman like me. It all started with a ruling that said Mr Ranas tenure cannot be extended. I wonder why they could not find a successor all these years ? Is it so talent starved bank that they cannot have legally acceptable and all compliant CEO ? It is a genuine issue which need to be addressed. It is not a political party which need to be run by a family member only.

Also, if despite so much of mayhem if they still stick to their gun and continue to ask extension for Mr Rana then there certainly is something suspicious in their books which need to be managed or hidden.

I may be completely wrong and YES BANK may become number one market cap company far exceeding that of Kotak, but their actions are certainly raising doubts.


(Hitesh Patel) #992

It would help if all the boarders here try to discuss Yes Bank merits/demerits with all details and arguments in single post. Rather than keep posting 1-2-3 liners and arguing endlessly with other boarders.

This kind of littering of the thread with unneccessary posts makes life difficult for moderators and also destroys value in the thread. So make sure to post only if it adds value to the thread.


(Karanops) #993

Read in some magazine shri rana borrowed 1200 cr from nbfc’s and hfc’s and invested that amount in real estate and stocks. He has bought some properties from yes bank. it seems these properties were mortgaged with bank by clients whose accounts were classified as npa’s. Not sure. Also one of the borrowers have written to PMO that he was forced to sell his property in lutyens delhi to talwar. The enquiry is on and RBI is investigating other such issues at yes bank.
This was in corporate india magazine. Dont know how true is this.


(Hersh Kapadia) #996

Can someone share summary of the article. It requires subscription to read.


(mrai74) #1002

They came up with a new date of 9th Jan


(Ranga Kiran) #1003

(mrai74) #1004

While blood bath, swing & volatility continues, MF houses have started accumulating shares of Yes Bank

They have sold heavily in Sep & Oct.

SBI-ETF, Franklin Equity & Reliance Arbitrage are the mazor buyers in Nov


(sumit680) #1005

You are requested to provide the source of this information


(harshrulz) #1006

Hi… Its from https://www.rupeevest.com/Mutual-Fund-Holdings/132667


(sanmam) #1008

(mrai74) #1009

On current valuations its a deal of approx 170 Cr