I think the situation is such that as gullible beings we are thinking that maybe we can catch the bottom and are wishing that things will turn positive and we will make a killing. Agree with what @Alphin says.
This is pure behavioral investing at play.
Personally I held YBL for a long time and then exited in Jan 18. Now I am itching to buy (only because of ~1.x PBV) despite knowing the concerns and the opacity of the future. Lets see how this pans out.
What are the conditions that you are assessing before buying this again or just waiting for the price to settle in? On a normal condition, I won’t ask such question. Considering the confused state of yes bank situation, your insights will be surely helpful for other members.
Thanks!
Disc: Still holding, didn’t panic sell, waiting for it to find a bottom and settle.
Agree with @Alphin. I bought at 203 yeterday and bought today as well. I’m a investor so take a long term view. Useful link from @dprashant. Data from Nomura Research
Also Kotak. Kotak Banks’s promoter has been sitting on 30% promoter stake and has created immense wealth by not diluting below 20% (as per rules). And RBI has given him such a long rope!
General observation:
I am surprised to see that many investors are “waiting for clarity”.
We should always remember that equity investing is about “buying future uncertainty”. If and when the future is certain, price will not have any discount.
The investors who are waiting are correct too Chirag. Price has been falling and it could go down more, there could be a support level, but times like these, it may or may not work, so why take unnecessary risks. Because here, there are more than one uncertainties.
I myself have purchased a few shares at 342 28 days ago, some at lesser price, some more at even lesser price and today purchased some again at 182. 46% fall.
A company is hardly ever fairly valued! It is always either over valued or under valued. And as we all know, when it is over valued, everyone is bullish and people want more of it and when it is under valued, no one wants it and all we hear is negativity.
Thing is, if the graph of the stock price is like a U then one will not be able to buy it at the bottom – right before the take off! Either one has to buy a bit early and see on paper losses of 10-20 percent or buy it a bit late and let go of the initial 10-20 percent gain.
Question everyone should ask is, is the Yes Bank franchise good enough so that it will bounce back? (E.g. like Jubilant Foods). It might take a 12-18 months but can it bounce back?
Personally I think it can.
I dont believe the rumors that the whole books is cooked! It is not possible. After all auditors have been auditing the account and they have not raised any flags! And of course they have not resigned! . Banks have always been monitored closely by the RBI and it has also been doing it own audits of the bank! People have accounts there. People have borrowed money from them. SEBI recently gave them approvals for starting mutual fund division.
Considering all this, I feel the fall is a great opportunity for people to buy for a 12-18 month period.
Retail investors like us always see historical charts and think “I should have bought ABC stock on that day”. But unfortunately we do no recognize when “THAT DAY” is in front of us in the present!
Agree with all of your points, but you don’t lose but gain by waiting, the reason being you can get more shares by waiting. I read that I think Rakesh Jhunjhunwala said that one should buy at the rise after it has fallen, because you never know how more it will fall.
You may have some years of experience, but you may not have seen a story like this, if you had seen I believe you would say that you will wait.
It is not Vakrangee, it is Yes Bank, but still it is better to err on the side of caution and wait. Yes, you could always buy some in between, I’m doing that but not deploying everything I want to invest.
By 12-18 month period, do you mean you want to hold it for that period and then sell?