Manappuram Finance


(prash.peru) #401

Is anyone here worried about loan book de-growth over the last few quarters, and the failure of quarterly disbursements in the last few quarters to show growth year-over-year? I understand economic conditions have been tough, but will you want to wait and see decisive signs of a turnaround in the company’s loan-book before committing money? Interested in people’s rationale.


(us121) #402

Today Asirvad Microfinance result is published in Business Standard, kolkata. on page 8. Result is for 6 months combined ending Sep17.

income is shown as 199.6 cr v/s previous yr six months 146.5 Cr.
net profit is shown as -45.7 cr v/s previous yr six months of 27.8 Cr.

for Q1fy18 net profit for Asirvad was - 34.1 Cr. that means they have booked another loss of about 11.6 cr in this qarter. am i correct?

Q1 data from manappuram investor presentation:


(us121) #403

Result from Business standard…


(amitjain2711) #404

#Manappuram #Results #Q2 2017-18 Results.pdf (2.6 MB)

SRC: https://nseindia.com/corporate/Results_07112017164606.zip


(Chirag) #405

Results look very pedestrian …

I am not able figure out the NPA numbers. I did not see them in the PL statement.

Can someone please point the Provisions/Contingencies/Writeoff number to me! Thank you!

Edit:

Provisions are down from 80 crs to 46 crs


(maheshkumar) #406

Asirvad loss narrowing
All other divisions gold ,vehicle and house neutral to good
Next quarter will be intersting
Great company in a sector which is in boom still highly undervalued


(Kumar Saurabh) #407

Though NPA challenges reducing and all numbers related to NPA in terms of day PAR, provisioning encouraging, the key concern is growth missing in core as well as new segments continuously from 3rd quarter. Planning to est 1-2 quarters more for growth to come back. I think may be because company is conservatively not getting into longer duration gold loans were customers have other options. Any insights on this would be appreciated


(amitjain2711) #408

Investor Presentation: ManappuramFinanceLimited.pdf (3.0 MB)

SRC: https://www.researchbytes.com/Manappuram-Finance-Limited-M0120.htm


(rajiv.maskara) #409

In the last concall the management had mentioned that although the tenure of the gold loans are of 3 months duration, but most of them get renewed without any payment happening if the customers pay their interest. So that shouldnt be a concern in my opinion.


(vinoths) #410

Again good set of numbers from Muthoot Finance in Q2 FY18…

Manappuram was struggling since last 4 quarters… Asirvad Microfinance contributes only 8% of overall AUM and that too Q2 FY18 is much better. The key concern is, Why good loan business line is negative to flat in Manappuram when competitor able to show decent growth?

Disc: Invested in Manappuram at lower levels and no trading in last 1 year.

Regards,
Vinoth


#411

Gold Loan AUM - Muthoot marginal decline vs. Manappuram marginal growth Qoq

PAT - Muthoot PAT is mostly coming from NIM expansion but Manappuram has already taken that benefit

GNPA - Muthoot doubled QoQ to 4.56% vs. 1.1% for MFS

NPA: Muthhot 3.99% vs. 0.9% for MFS

Other segments - Due to higher costs/NPAs etc other service lines like home loans and MFIs have not been contributing to MFS but Muthoot is better placed.

Let’s not go by PAT numbers alone. MFS has to work on home loan while MFI has recovered completely. The biggest worry is structural stagnation in the gold loan segment across the industry.

Disc: Invested


(yudiagg) #412

I am tired of holding it for so long. No growth in AUMs over last 4 qtrs. Bottom line reducing every qtrs. Cannot live on only hope forever. Liquidated major part of holding today at some loss. Big opportunity loss since many others are going up every day on improved performance. Migrated to Rain Industries- excellent Q3 today.


(Kumar Saurabh) #413

I think, there are flaws in this reason (joined con call in between ,so, was not aware of this). Taking 1 lakh loan for 3 months and doing 33k payment (assuming 0% interest for simplicity) and doing 10k payment on 1 lakh loan for 10 months are very different consideing personal liquidity perspective. If some takes 1 lakh clears in 3 months and again takes 1 lakh back, this is more of rotating the money. Conservative lending is good but may be this is driving away customers to easier options
Disc: Invested and holding


(maheshkumar) #414

Trending down NPAs
Housing finance and ashirwad may increase profitability in coming quarters

VP Nandakumar, MD & CEO, said: “After demonetisation, the company went through three quarters without growth. But now our consolidated AUM has grown by 2.6 per cent over the preceding quarter. The pick-up in the rural economy following good monsoon has brightened the prospects.”


(Kunal shah) #415

what about yoy numbers for gold loan in Manappuram, they have conveniently skipped yoy nos from presentation. most appropriate comparision is yoy dont u think so :smile:


(rajiv.maskara) #416

So this is the statement in the concall “One thing I want to make clear, this three months is not three
months, if he has remitted the full interest and also the marking to the market the new
LTV he want to renew it, it can be continued for any number of months” In your example(assuming LTV is at 50% so gold worth 2lakh is given against which one lakh loan is taken), if after three months gold value comes down from 2 lakh to 1.8 lakh, the borrower would have to pay 10k as principal(50% of 20,000 decrease in gold value) and can continue with the loan as long he is updated with interest position. In my opinion, this is a conservative albeit risk averse way of decoupling your risk from gold prices. In three months gold price fluctuation wouldnt be as huge as it could potentially be in a year.


#417

Will do YoY comparison from the next quarter when the landscape is comparable especially after demonetization during Q3 -FY17.


(nitin.verma) #418


Concall highlights


(maheshkumar) #419

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/earnings-business/target-20-yoy-growth-open-for-inorganic-opportunities-manappuram-finance-2434059.html

CFO manappuram


(maheshkumar) #420

Hmm
I have increased my allocation to manappuram
NPA of mannapuram is 1% while of
moothoot
is 4-5%
Going forward security cost will come down

Loan growth will improve

Management said 20% growth
Ashirwad has turned around and we will see profit in 1-3 quarters
Vehicle finance Is doing great

Home loan aum will be 1000cr in 3 years as per management with the new housing team
Diversified in 4 sectors

Demonetisation effect going away
Great penetration in south
Risk :regulatory for gold
Political For nbfc u
To me
Limited downside
Possible rerating soon