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Investing Basics - Feel free to ask the most basic questions

(MHS) #820

Check these vidoes:

(Dinesh Sairam) #821

I would personally exclude non-business income from Operating Income/EBIT. So in this case, yes, Dividends from Mutual Funds / Forex Gains would be excluded. Income from Export Licences, not so sure. Check some previous ARs. If this item is there, it could actually be a recurring business activity.

Both Other Financial Assets and Other Current Assets look like business capital (Working Capital). I would include them in the calculation. Again, the key here is the recurrence. If they sound like business activities and they have been recurring in the last few ARs, then they’re definitely Working Capital.

Unclaimed Dividend isn’t a usual business activity. I wouldn’t bother including it in the calculations. But yes, everything else looks like a regular business activity.

No. You shouldn’t include any item from Non-current Assets. Long lived Assets aren’t ‘liquid’ by nature. From Current Assets, you may include ‘Cash and Cash Equivalents’, ‘Other Bank Balances’ and ‘Investments’.

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Thanks @dineshssairam for your help. I finally got the ROCE for LTTS to be 28% which is quite good.

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(Mahendra243) #823

Does anyone know of a site which shows all time high price and low price of a stock…not the usually 52wH/l which is available in more sites

(Sandokan) #824


Can this not be obtained from the graph showing prices of a stock over the maximum range? Such a graph is available on most sites, including Screener. One just needs to select the price range as “Max”. This is what I usually do.

Does this help?


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(Chandragupta) #825

See if it indicates anything meaningful.

The “capital” a software company employs is human capital. It does not appear anywhere on the Balance Sheet. The functional equivalent of Return on Capital Employed for a software company may be Salaries as a percentage of Revenues, and Revenue per Employee.

On the Balance Sheet, the only items of relevance are Receivables and Unbilled Revenue. You may look at the trend here, but dividing profits by these doesn’t lead anywhere. If there is lot of surplus cash, deduct it from market cap while looking at the valuation.

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(SOHAN) #826

Hello all.i have seen companies issuing warrants and rights.What are warrants and rights issued by do they affect price is stock

(Dinesh Sairam) #827

Warrants are famously called as Employee Stock Options. I’m sure you’ve heard of them. In essence, an ESOP provides the employee with the option to purchase additional share(s) in the company at a pre-fixed rate and a fixed time period.

In Option terminology, the ‘pre-fixed’ rate is called the ‘Strike Price’ and the fixed time period is called the ‘Expiry’. There are a few more stuff that goes into calculation of an Option’s Value. The most used model to value such Options (Even by most Indian firms) is the Black-Scholes-Merton Option Pricing Model.

Usually, a new issue of ESOP reduces the outstanding stock’s value i.e. It takes some value from all the existing shareholders of the company and provides it as an optionality to the person receiving the ESOP. It is a value-destructive activity,

Let me explain with an example. As of 2017, Eicher Motors’ ESOP balance looked like this:

I calculated their ESOP’s value as follows (Using the BSM Option Pricing Model of course):

What this meant is that Eicher Motors’ shareholders could lose Rs. 187.21 in Market Value (Rs. 509.23 Crores, divided by 2.72 Crores outstanding shares) at any point until 2022 (2017 + ~5 years), which at the time was about 0.61% of Eicher Motors’ Market Cap.

Please note this is just an approximation. A more accurate method would be to calculate the value of each option issue individually and then sum it up, which I clearly didn’t do.

(csteja) #828

I need a website which gives top performing sectors given time period? Is there any which you are aware of friends? Thanks.

(Divyanshu Taneja) #829

Can a public limited company is allowed to conduct a board meeting without intimating shareholders?
Majesco ltd today conducted board meeting without intimating shareholders, so is it okay? @dineshssairam

(Mayank Goel) #830

I heard or read somewhere in this forum that its allowed maybe for prefential shareholders…

(Dinesh Sairam) #831

I don’t think that’s possible. But perhaps a CA or a Company Secretary would know better.

(Gaurav Agarwal) #832

Client Master of CDSL has a field named “Purchase Waiver”, which is marked “Yes” in a new demat account.

What is the meaning of “Purchase waiver”?


(Dinesh Sairam) #833

Try this:

Search for ‘Purchase Waiver’ or look at 2.4.7.

(SOHAN) #834

Hello all .what is minimum average size of company in market cap terms in which funds 2.PMS can invest money.can we benefit from quality companies that they cannot invest due to limitations.

(VijayShetty) #835

To find moat stocks based on return - is it better to use ROE or ROCE or ROIC? And why?

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(Gaurav Agarwal) #836
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(IcyHot) #837

Recently read a notice by a company where in it mentioned that shares unclaimed for last 7 years will be transferred to IEPF… (education fund)… i understand it must be meant for paper shares… but I was shocked to see the notice also applied to demat shares… so now my question is what constitutes an "unclaimed“ share? Is it the lack of activity in demat account for 7 years, if yes then its highly unfair… Govt cannot take my shares for lack of activity… please can somebody clarify

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(ashish) #838

The lack of activity in demat acccount for 7 years is not the criteria for transfer of shares to IEPF account. The shares will be transferred to IEPF when

  • company was not able to pay/credit dividend to the shareholder’s account and same has not been claimed for a consecutive period of 7 years

  • Company was not able to credit bonus/split shares, neither it has been claimed for 7 years

(IcyHot) #839

sorry for being naive, but why would a company not be able to transfer bonus shares to a demat account? only when its dormant right?
I just wanted to know the circumstances and scenarios in which company is unable to transfer bonus shares in a demat account ? . for example in case of a dividend transfer, company could claim there was no valid bank account linked to demat…