Investing Basics - Feel free to ask the most basic questions

(saurabhshares) #251

My question is related to outstanding shares, issued capital and authorized capital

  1. Is issued capital = equity capital. [Not including reserves]
  2. Is issued capital = number of outstanding shares * face value
  3. When a company issues more shares (for whatever reason) then is it possible to find how much more money came into the company because of this act? Where does this money that came into the company sit in balance sheet?

Pasting this below for OFSS taken from
Mar 2005 Mar 2006 Mar 2007 Mar 2008 Mar 2009 Mar 2010 Mar 2011 Mar 2012 Mar 2013 Mar 2014 Mar 2015 Mar 2016 Mar 2017
Share Capital 37.44 38.14 41.64 41.87 41.88 41.93 41.95 41.99 42.03 42.07 42.31 42.35 42.47


(SRIDHA) #252

Thank you very much for giving clarification on Expected growth rate.

(p12srirampp) #253


If I know a particular company holds a land with market value of 500 crores on its books, how should i assign value to the stock.

Because a market value of 500 crores would be the total black and white component and stock holders only get the white component of it.

Are the quoted land deals between companies the true values or a lot higher because there is an unstated black component.

What is the usual practice.

(abhishkjain2626) #254

One question regarding dividends by Financial firms -

If they are going to need as much money as possible for growth, why do they pay 10-20% of the profits (looked at the likes of HDFC) as dividends every year.

Especially when a firm is into lending, I simply find the dividend inefficient for it entails an extra 20% tax. Is there a pressure by the shareholders?

(Sarabjeet Singh) #255

Hi Guys,

Could someone please help to find the place to check what all companies are in Trade-to-Trade category ?
Also till when they will remain there ?

General review schedule is available at the following URL

(Estallar) #256

BTST stands for Buy Today Sell Tomorrow which at times is also written as ATST.

In India, we have T+2 settlement cycle for stocks. Below is an excerpt from NSE to give details on it -

“NSCCL follows a T+2 rolling settlement cycle. For all trades executed on the T day, NSCCL determines the cumulative obligations of each member on the T+1 day and electronically transfers the data to Clearing Members (CMs). All trades concluded during a particular trading date are settled on a designated settlement day i.e. T+2 day.”

Now, BTST is just another facility provided by the brokers where you can buy a stock on T day and sell the same on T+1 day before it gets delivered to your Demat Account on T+2 day.

Note: You need to be careful of short delivery from the exchange while buying delivery today and selling the same delivery tomorrow as they you will be liable for any auction loss due to short payout from exchange. This happens very rarely in blue chip stocks, but can happen more often in Penny and Trade to Trade stocks. So if possible stay away from doing BTST on T2T stocks and illiquid stocks.

(jstocks) #257

I have heard that one should avoid stocks of companies which have low promoter holdings or those where stocks have been pledged but I have noticed that many experts here have a significant part of their portfolios invested in such stocks. So can someone please enlighten me as to why experts invest in such stocks? Thanks

([email protected]) #260

Hi Forum members,

Looking for some input on the cash flow statement from operations.
My query is regarding the below two highlighted sections.

Would like to know how did the value 23.84 and -30.48 arrive at.
I was expecting the value to be 20.75 and -24.17

Cash flow statement:

Balance sheet details:

Can someone explain me how the figure has been arrived, your inputs would be very helpful.


(nabilmoideen) #261

Subtract the Current Assets of last year & this Year.Do same for Current Liabilities for both years.You will get the figures shown in the cash flow statement.

([email protected]) #262

Thanks @nabilmoideen for getting back on this.
I still do not get the figure by considering the ‘other current asset and other current liabilities’

Trade receivable: 148.06 169.81 diff = 21.75
other current asset: 90.85 93.47 diff = 2.62
Total = 21.75+2.62 = 24.37 but the Cash flow shows as 23.84

Trade payable: 93.34 117.51 diff = 24.17
other current liabilities 36.07 44.81 diff = 8.74
Total = 24.17+8.74 = 32.91 but the Cash flow shows as 30.48

Am I missing something.

(Chetan Ambi) #263

Can someone please help me how to calculate CCC (Cash Conversion Cycle) of any Indian company.

([email protected]) #264

Have a question related to shareholding pattern and pledging

I have been following a company (In the Rural Infra space) and noticed that the shareholding pattern of the promoter has been declining from 72% odd to around 52%. (from FY16 till Q2-FY18)

At the same time the Institution holding has gone up from 2% odd to close to 9% which in my opinion is positive
But at the same time the promoter has pledged close to 80% of his holding

How should some one read this.

Institutes stack going up can be considered +ve but at the same time pledging is a big -ve
Experienced members can you let me know how to read this. I am new to value investing and in learning phase.

Your inputs/comments will help me in how to analyse a company.
Many thanks.

(Ram Arvin) #265

You can get the same from ratestar website, it’s inventory days plus receivable days minus payable days. Which means how quickly you are rotating cash in your business from purchase to sales.

(nabilmoideen) #266

Try to be roughly correct rather than finding precise laser sharp numbers. IMHO Such precision over minor deviations are worthwhile only for an accountant but not for an equity analyst.

([email protected]) #267

@nabilmoideen makes sense :slight_smile: I was quite curious to know where the difference was
anyways thanks for your inputs, it was helpful.

(007jonam) #268

Hi Donald,

I am a newbie & this is my first post. I tried opening links “Investing Basics” or “Stock Market Basics” as per your note but unable to do so.

Can you pls guide me on startup guides/articles on stocks investing?


(Donald Francis) #269

Hi Jonam,

Sorry looks like the category links have got broken while individual articles exist :frowning:
Meanwhile you can get started with the articles directly by clicking on these links below

Investing Basics

Stock Market Basics

@pratyushmittal could you please check the “Basics” link on home page and recreate the category links for Investing Basics and Stock Market Basics categories. Thanks.

(007jonam) #270

Thanks much Donald for your quick response.


(yourraj) #271

Hi Dear,
this will help you to better understand the concept

wish you all the best in value hunting in the investing journey

(Dakshina) #272

I am trying to understand the relationship between current Price earnings ( and current price) and the growth expectations.
Given a current price ( or /and P/E) (1) how to ( not precisely , but some way to quantify) establish the growth expectations and (2) how much of that growth expectation is already built in to ‘Current price’.

Request your views on this ( if possible with reference to below stocks)