Hawkins Cookers : Is growth coming back?


(sambandham82) #389

i think there is a dichotomy in prediction of 10 yr growth rate of 25% which is too high- may be 12-14% is optimum and 2% growth for terminal value which is too low- may be 7% assuming volume growth to saturate and considering only inflation rate.


#390

As terminal growth rate of 2% itself contributes 50% of the value as shown in the below snapshot, a higher number does not seems to be a good idea. Also, the above DCF did not account for Debt on the companies BS. On accounting for debt, expected growth rate jumps to 28% for next 10 years.


(Chandragupta) #391

DCF analysis should be done using Cash Flows and not EPS. Also ensure you account for variables like maintenance capex, incremental working capital and cash taxes correctly.


#392

Latest results for Q1-FY17.


(Hitesh Patel) #393

Poor set of results.

One of the reasons could be inventory destocking due to GST which is the explanation given by a lot of FMCG cos for poor results.


(zulfiqar) #394

Is any one on the forum attended the AGM?


#395

I attended Hawkins AGM & reason for such steep fall was attributed to GST indeed…

Every other quater they face one issue or another, Chairman is too old to understand the business dynamics of present day business. NO hope left for making any decent money in Hawkins…Maybe Div yield can hold price to certain level, but post BM Episode not much price action seen in Hawkins…

Disclosure: Not holding Hawkins, but tracking since many years now.


#396

Thanks Ashish…What about the young Turks from promoter family…son and son in law? Did they show any signs of taking the business to next orbit? Mored details, if you could share, on AGM would be a really great help…Thanks to Hitesh Bhai who put across the insight i.e GST angle while everyone else had the same data…Regards.


#397

His Son Neil Vasudev (Aged in mid 40s) is not even part of Hawkins board and son-in-law is CFO of the company (came to board few year ago).

Chairman is talking launching news products since many year’s now and what they launch is new variant of pressure Cooker or cookware (Like induction compatible Cooker etc) which not seen to take their growth to even double digit consistently… I feel Div of yield ( Rs 70 0 Div this year) will hold the price above 2500, but consistent double digit growth seems to be distant dream for Hawkins…

In Cooker itself they are not able to capture market with monopoly & new cooker companies like Vinod, Bufferfly along with TTK able to sell because of supply side issues with Hawkins… Most of time in the year if I go to market to check the Hawkins cooker, dealers says thay they dont have supply from Hawkins, but you can see others likes Prestige, Vinod & others brand stocked sufficiently.


(Hitesh Patel) #398

Destocking is usually followed by restocking. So maybe some part of pent up demand will spill over to the next quarter.

Thats atleast the way some brokerages have upgraded Emami.:grinning:

In terms of stock market reaction, usually a couple of days is the time it takes to manifest itself in range bound markets and after that the stock price tends to establish a range till the next bit of newsflow occurs.


(reacher) #399

Q1 was impacted by GST-However heartening to note that sales have picked up in August 2017.For eg business from their biggest customer CSD fell 22% in Q1 but has gone up 43% in Aug on yoy basis.Long term GST will help organised players like hawkins.Since market prices in the future my submission is that Q2 is going to be better than Q1 (and Q2 of LY).Other than the chairperson the key person to watch is his son in law ex citi banker and current cfo

As on date they have 1097 active dealers.Once they capture dealer mind and shelf space the dice will roll.Till then the anxious will exit.

Dividend yield is zero protection .Growth or the first whiff of it is the only protection.We must watch the sales numbers for Q2.


(Aniket Krishna) #401

Nope. August is correct. Advance orders mentioned in Brahm’s speech.
http://www.hawkinscookers.com/download/AGM-Speech-2017.pdf


#402

All,

Any idea why the expenses-Expenditure in Foreign Currency and Dealer Conference Expenses- jump drastically on every alternate year (jumped in FY11, 13, 15, 17)?


(Amit Aggarwal) #403

Quite bullish commentory from management in AGM (read in exchange announcement)

http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachHis/11a02c3c-011e-49e1-b821-9ab0cf81a946.pdf

Let us see how the story pans out, so far it has been a laggard.

Disc: Not invested, tracking the story


(reacher) #404

Q2 PAT up 55% Sales up 14%


(Amit Aggarwal) #405

The results are in line with what management mentioned in the AGM as per snapshot shared earlier.

A new product was launched in September.
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http://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/9c36cc2c-ee02-4d64-b21a-96208252dbb9.pdf


(zulfiqar) #406

There was a huge inventory build up, broaders could come in


#407

Compared to last year festival season was earlier.


(nipunmohta) #408