Butterfly Gandhimathi- from Ashes to Glory?

(Nicky) #21

I agree with your observation. I am from Pune. 4 months ago I was searching for gas stove and visited shops. I noticed Prestige as 1st product. Vidiem was really appealing aesthetically. I bought Vidiem and suggested my mom and in-laws in Rajasthan to buy the same.

(Satya Prakash) #22

There is nothing different to red flag in current quarter’s Profit. Only tax is charged negatively and that could be checked. With tax, profit could be lower.
Excise duty is nil now. It was 17 cr earlier. So, somewhere in tax all these will come. If all is going to come on expense then we won’t see this good looking profit.

I was checking relative valuation.
If I see TTK Prestige, IFB Ind, Hawkins cookers, etc then I find that it is not relatively cheap. PE is not comparable but P/S is. Where it stand on relative valuation!

Disc: Not invested.

(Sandeep) #23

Q3 result:


EBITDA margin is down QoQ. They might be offering discounts to counter competition. Please share your thoughts as well.

(Mahesh) #24

The difference in margin QoQ comes along with a drop in sales, which is a worry. Unless there is a seasonal component to their products.

(Sandeep) #25

Given that Q3 was festive season, sales must actually be higher or even remain at Q2 level. Something might have happened with institutional sales in Q3 as they form 20-25% of the overall sales

Request others to chip in with their inputs.

(Sandeep) #26

Investor presentation for Q3:


(insanemaverick) #27

Brilliant results from BGIL…Turnaround story very much on track. Hats off to the management execution.

  • Topline growth of 76% YoY ( Complete outlier in its sector)
  • Bottomline at 1.9 Crs Vs (26.1) Crs

Slide No. 27 and 28 give a lot of insights into their turnaround plans. Company is on track to achieve a turnover of around 700 Crores in FY19 and 900 Crores in FY20. Continue to believe that is deserves a market cap of Rs. 2000 Crores at least, based on FY19 expected PAT of around Rs. 40-50 Crs.

One of the best operating leverage stories around with ever improving balance sheet.

(sourav) #28

Thanks for starting the thread. The turnaround story looks good .2 questions

  1. Do you understand where the growth in recent quarters is coming from ? What are they doing differently ? Is it just renewed focus on Branded business ? What are they doing on ground to achieve that ?
  2. 2017 PAT is negative but the operating cash flow is positive. Do you understand why .

I am following this thread and trying to understand more . Not yet invested .

(roysavio) #29

The answer to question 2 (on operating cash flows) is in the annual report:

(sourav) #30

Thanks. Most of the increased operating cash flow is because of decrease in trade receivables. Is this because they exited the government business this year ? I would think that is the most likely driver and hoping cash flows will be stronger in the future too .


I have my doubts on all companies (mostly Jewellery companies but there are others too) that had dramatic cash flows in FY17, especially when it wasn’t the case in previous years and when the EBITDA doesn’t correlate.

(cathene) #32

Can you please specify those jewellery companies? Thanks in advance

(Dazzled beginner) #33

So u mean to say that working capital and non cash expenses wer tailored to make the cash flows positive??.
Interesting take…how do u co relate ebitda to cash flows…usually everyone criticise ebitda saying it is not a measure of cash flow etc etc…
But u hv a different perspective…
Looking at cash flows in comparison to ebitda…
Do u look at ebitda/ cash flow for ten yrs and suspect something is cooking if the gap widens ?? Like the ratio was in some range and suddenly left track eg: lets say it was ebitda was around 60% of cash flows and all of a sudden it became 20% …something like that?? …how did u co relate…